• Misyar Marriage

    is carried out via the normal contractual procedure, with the specificity that the husband and wife give up several rights by their own free will...

  • Taraveeh a Biad'ah

    Nawafil prayers are not allowed with Jama'at except salatul-istisqa' (the salat for praying to Allah to send rain)..

  • Umar attacks Fatima (s.)

    Umar ordered Qunfuz to bring a whip and strike Janabe Zahra (s.a.) with it.

  • The lineage of Umar

    And we summarize the lineage of Omar Bin Al Khattab as follows:

  • Before accepting Islam

    Umar who had not accepted Islam by that time would beat her mercilessly until he was tired. He would then say

Friday, April 26, 2013

Hazrat Umme Kulsum ka Umar se Nikah ghair-e-shia ka Jahilana Jhoot

Ye sirf ek jhooot hai ki Maula Ali a.s masoom  wali-e-khuda wasi-e-rasol s.a.w alamdar-e-parchame-e-islam ,sher-e-khuda, la fatah illa ali a.s ne jiske shaan mai zulfiqaar utri usne apni phool si kam umr masooma bachi ka nikah usse kar diya ki 
jo ohad aur  hunain rasool s.a.w ki jaan ko musibat mai cchod apni jaan bachakar bhaage,,,,
umar ka bhagne ki ye baat sahih bukhari mai darj hain
is baat ko aqalmand reject karenge
Jaise inhone kiya 
Nikah-e-Umm Kulthum (RA) 2/3 Mufakkir-e-Islam Pir Syed Abdul Qadir Jilani
is video mai pir syed abdul qadir jilani umme kulsum ke nikah ko reject kar diya hai ,,toh baaqi log kyu aitbaar karte hain
ISKO MANNA HAI WOH MAAN LENGE YAHI DALEEL KAAFI HAI
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ab ye jhooot kahan se shuru hota hai ye bhi bata deta hoon
YE ISLIYE SHURU HOTA KI JAB HUM LOG UMAR KA ZULM BIBI SYEDA PER DIKHATE HAIN 
TOH UMME KULSUM KE NIKAH KA ZIKR SIRF ISLIYE HOTA HAI TAAKI  Umar PER YE ILZAM HAT JAYE

MAGAR YE BAS EK CROSS QUESTION ,,,,KHUD DEKHIYE KI INLOGON APNI  FAMOUS HAQ CHAR YAR SITE PER IN LOGON NE TOPIC KO CHANGE KAR DIYA ,,

JAB KI MUJHE UMME KULSUM KA MATTER WAHAN PER DISCUSS KARNA KI JAGAHN PER HUMNE BIBI SYEDA KE UPER UMAR KE ZULM HAWAVA DIYA PEHLE USKO CLEAR KIYA JAYE KI RIVAYATEN JHOOTI HAI YA SACHI?
TOH PEHLE YE BATAYE KI BIBI SYEDA PER DAR GIRANE WAALE SE MAULA ALI A.S APNI BETI KI SHAADI KARA DENGE?
TOH PEHLE IS MASLE KO CLEAR KARE PHIR BAAD MAI SHADI KA MASLA
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ab tasdeeq shia books ki aur shia aulaamao ki,,,
jaise ki humne dekha hai ki ye sirf ek cross question ek mauzo se hat kar jaan bachana ke liye ...
aur gher-e-shia ke samajhdar log isse reject karte hain 
Toh ab dekhen ki shia hazrat ki books mai kaun si rivayaten jinse ye fayda lena chahte hain
FURU KAFI MAI RIVAYAT HAI KI JAB UMAR MAR GAYA TOH MAULA ALI AS  UMME KULSUM KO GHAR WAPIS LE AYE
IT MEANS FOR GHER-E-SHIA KI SHAADI HUI THIH MAGAR TASDEEQ KE HISAB YE RIVAYAT BIBI UMME KULSUM BINT ALI A.S SE SHADI UMAR KI HUI NAHI MAANI JA SAKTI HAI,,DOSRI BAAT YE HAI KI KOI BHI BAAT SHIA MASLAK MAI JO BOOK MAI HAI JAB TAK TASDEEQ NAHI HO JAATI MANI NAI JAATI HAI ISLIYE ISKI TASDEEQ ZARURI HAIN
MAGAR AGAR SHADI HUI HOTI TOH JINSE JINSE BIBI UMMME KULSUM KI SHADI HUI HAI UNKE NAAMO MAI UMAR KA BHI NAAM SHAMIL HONA  CHAIYE ,,,,,,YA PHIR  KOI EVENT MAUJOOD HOTA KI KAB SHADI HUI 
KISNE NIKAH PADHA
LIFE KAISI GUZRI,,
UNKI ZINDAGI KA KOI WAQIYA....
AUR HUM  YE MAAN NAHI SAKTE HAIN KYUKI MAULA ALI AS EK BHAGODE SE SHAADI KARA DETE JO RASOOL.SA.W KI ZINDAGI KE MUSIBAT KE WAQT CCHOD KAR BHAG GAYE THAH?
KYA WOH AADMI AITBAAR KE LAYAKH HAI KI JISNE RASOOL S.A.W KO HI MUSIBAT MAI CCHOD DIYA
AUR SHAADI KE YE BAAT SIHAH SATTA MAI TOH NAZAR NAHI AATI HAI .........
DOSRI RIVAYAT MAI HAI KI JAB BIBI UMME KULSUM AUR UNKA BETA ZAID EK HI DIN INTEQAAL KAR GAYE 
UNKI NAMAZ-E-JANAZA IMAM HASAN A.S NE PADHAI...
IT MEANS KE YE KARBALA SE PEHLE KA WAQIYA HAI ,,,AUR BIBI UMME KULSUM TOH KARBALA MAI MAIJOOD THI
YE SAB JAANTE HAIN...
AB TASDEEQ KE HISAB SE DEKHA JAYE TOH ZAID IBNE UMAR UMME KULSUM KA BETA KAHA JATA HAI TOH PEHLE YE BAAT CLEAR KAR DUN KI UMME KULSUM KI KOI AULAAD NAHI THIH
TOH YE UMME KULSUM DOSRI HAIN
AUR ALI A.S KI BETI UMME KULSUM NAHI HAIN,
KYUKI UMME KULSUM JISKA BETA ZAID THAH WOH KARBALA SE PEHLE CHAL BASI..
JAB KI ASL BETI KARBALA MAI THIH..
2 DALEELEN AAPKE SAAMNE RAKHDI GAYI HAIN....JINKO KOI BHI AQAL MAND MAN LEGA
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MAI YE ACCCHI TARHAN SE JAANTA HOON KI YE VIDEO DIKHANE KE BAAD, YE SUBOOT DENE KE BAAD BHI LOG YE KAHENGE KI SCHOLAR BEWAQOOF HAI AUR BIKA HUA HAI VDO FARZI HAI AUR ISI JAHIYAT PER ADE REHNA CHAHENGE KI .......TOH PHIR ADE RAHEN HAI ISI JAHIYAT PER AUR KEHTE RAHE HAIN GHER MAREFAT BATEN...
KHAIR MERA KAAM HAI JAWAB DENA MAI DE RAHA HOON LAKUM DENAKUM WALA YADIN
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AGAR YE DEKHA JAYE KI BIBI UMME KULSUM KI SHAADI UMAR SE HUI
TOH DEKHIYE ZARA KIS TARAHN SE HUI
Let us begin with Asad al Ghaybah Volume 5 page 367:
"Abu Umar narrates on the authority of Zubayr Bakri, 'Umar asked for the hand of Ali's daughter, who replied that she was too young. 'Umar asked twice more. 'Ali said 'I shall send the girl to you, if you like her than say 'I accept''. 'Ali then sent the girl with a cloth and told her to say [to 'Umar] 'This is the scarf that I was talking about'. She conveyed these words to 'Umar, who said 'Tell your father that I accept'. Umar then touched the girl's calf. She exclaimed 'You have done this to me? If it hadn't been for the fact that you are Khalifa of the Muslims I would have broken your nose'. The girl went home and repeated the episode to her father, stating 'You sent me to a foul man', with that 'Ali said 'He is your husband'."
lo ji abhi shaadi hui nahi aur ek namehram ladki ko ccheda toh ladki ne kya kaha ki mai tere ko jhapad hi maar dungi..
then apne baap se jakar kaha ki woh admi sahih nahi thah accha nahi thah""'You sent me to a foul man'"" 
JAB LADKI AKAR YE COMPLAIN KAR RAHI HAI AUR IS TARAHN KA WAQIYA BAYAN KIYA HAI TOH KAUN SA BAAP  JISNE JO AISE SHAKHS SE SHAADI KARAYEGA?
another proof
Al Isaba Volume 4 page 492 reports the text similarly with difference being the comment of Umme Kalthum (as) namely:
"If it hadn't been the fact that you were Khalifa of the Muslims I would have spat in your face".
YE BAAT SAMAJH NAHI AAATI HAI KI AAP LOG AISI SHAAN KAISE MAAN LETE HAIN KI LADKI KISI MARD KO USKE BEHAVIOUR PER KAHE KI
i would have spat in your face
what does it mean? tazeem?
ISKA MATLAB YE HAI KI HAZRAT UMAR KE CHARACTER MAI KUCH NA KUCH KHARABI THI TAB HI EK LADKI NE AISA KAHA KI """MUH TOD DUNGI"""AANKHE NIKAL LUNGI..
koi toh samjhao ki umar ki yahi izzat hai ki ladki ko ghar per bulakar check kar rahe the aur kuch namunasib baat ki toh ladki ne kaha teri naak tod dungi..........tera muh phoood dungi?
YAHI IZZAT HAI KI LADKI KAHE TERA MUH PHOOD DUNGI,,,
,AUR GHAR PER AKAR YE BEHOODA HARKAR APNE BAAP KO BATAYE  AUR KAHE KI WOH AADMI BOHOT KHARAB THAH ACCHA NAHI THAH TOH WOH BAAP BETI KI NAHI SUNEGA AUR KAHEGA WOH TUMHARA SHOHAR HAI??
MUJHE LAGTA HAI KI IS BAAT PER YAQEEN KARNE WAALE APNI BETIYO KO BHI AISE HI NAMEHRAMO KE GHAR CHECK KARWAANE BHEJTE HAIN KI SHADI KE LAYAKH HO GAYI YA NAHI?
EK MINT KE FARZ KIYA JAYE KI MAAZ ALLAH HAZRAT ALI RAZI ALLAH TAHLA HO ANHO NE APNI BETI KO EK AISE AADMI KE PASS BHEJA KI JO USKA NAMEHRAM ??
KYA AAP YE GAVARA KARENGE KI AAP APNI BETIYO KO SHAADI SE PEHLE EK NAMEHRAM MARD KE PASS USE PASAND KARWANE BHEJEN??
JAB AAP APNI LADKI KO NAHI BHEJENGE TOH ALI A.S KE LIYE KAISE YE BAAT PER AITBAAR KARTE HAIN?
waah ji aqal ke godhe nahi toh gadhe hi dauda lo :P,
,tumhare aqal ke gadhe nahi daudenge mai mujhe hi kooda chalane padenge ;) :P 
KOODE GINO 
KODA NO 1= ALI A.S KI BETI KI SHAADI USE  HUI KI  JO JUNGO SE RASOOL S.A.W KO HI CCHOD KAR BHAAG KADHA HUA THAH
KODA NO 2= ALI A.S KI BETI  KARBALA KE BAAD SHAHADAT KAR GAYI,,JAB KI ZAID IBNE UMAR KI MAA UMME KULSUM KARBALA SE PEHLE HI WAFAAT KAR GAYI THIH...AUR ASLI UMME KULSUM KARBALA MAI MAJOOOD THIH
KODA NO 3=AL A.S SALAM NE MAAZ ALLAH APNI BETI EK NAMEHRAM KO BHEJ DI KE USE CHECK KARE ASTARFIRULLAH
KODA NO 4= US LADKI  NE UMAR KO KAHA HAI TERA MUH TOD DUNGI TERI NAAK TOD DUNGI
KODA NO 5=  IMAM ALI A.S NE YE SAARI UMAR KI BATTAMIZIYA SUNI AUR APNI BETI SE KI ""AAPNE MUJHE EK BEIMAAN KE PASS BHEJ DIYA,,,TOH LADKI KI NAMANZOORI AUR ITNI BATTAMIZI PER BHI ALI A.S NE SHADI KARA DI
YE PAANCH KODE MAARE HAIN MAGAR TUM LOGO TOH BESHARAM HO KHUD SOCHO APNI BETI KO KISI KE GHAR CHECK KARWANE BHEJOGE    KI  """LO BHAIYAA  CHECK KAR LO TUMHE PASAND AAYE TOH SHADI KAR LENA,,AUR WOH SHAKH USE GALE LAGAYE KISS KARE.......IS BAAT KO AHLESUNNAT KE QABIL LOG SAMJHE AUR SOCHE KI JAB AAP APNI BETI KO KISI NAMEHRAM KE YAHAN NAI BHEJENGE TOH ALI A.S AMEER UL MOMINEEN HOKAR KAISE BHEJ SAKTE HAIN?
ye baat toh sabit ho gayi ke ahle sunnat aur wahabi  jahil hain aur ko anti shia sites per hamare baare mai ghalat aur gumrah kar rahe hain un jahilo se meri koi behas nahi hai...
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KUCH AUR SAWAL  AHLE SUNNAT SE UMME KULSUM KE NIKAH KE BARE MAI
KYA NANA KI  NAVASI SE SHADI JAYEZ HAIN?
TAREEKH MAI KI RASOOL S.AW NE MUH BOLEY BETE KI BETI SE SHADI KI THI...MAGAR WOH MUH BOLA BETA THA NA KI RISHAT USKA THHA
JAISE KI SAB JANTE HAIN KI UMAR KA RISHTA HAFSA KE SAUTELE MA BANNE BIBI FATIMA KI UMME KULSUM S.A SE SAUTELE PAR NANA KA RISHTA BAN JAATA HAI..AGAR YE KAHA JAYE KI  MUH BOLI BETE KI BETI SE SHADI KI THI TOH
KYA HAFSA MUH BOLI BIWI THIH?
KYA UMAR MUH BOLEY SASUR JI THE?
AUR YE BHI KAHA JAATA HAI BOHOT DOOR KA RISHTA THA,,,KYA UMAR AUR HAFSA RASOOL S.A.W KI BETI KI BETI SE BOHOT DOOR KA RISHTA THA?MATLAB KUCH AHLE SUNNAT AUR WAHABI ANSWER KUCH S TARAHN SE DETE HAIN...
= BOHOT DOOR AUR MUH BOLI BIWI HAFSA AUR BOHOT DOOR KE MUH BOLEY SASUR JI SE SHAD
EK AUR SAWAL HAI MERA KI KYA QAMR-E-BANI HASHIM MAI SHUJA AUR NAUJAWAN KHOOBSURAT  MARDO KI KAMI PAD GAYI THIH JO UMAR JO UNKI MAA SE AGE MAI BADE THEE AUR APNI NAVASI SHAADI KARAI GAYI??
TOH EK BAAT SAMJHAI JAYE KI..
TUMHARI KOI SAUTELI NAVASI (JAISE BIBI FATIMA ZEHRA UMAR KI THIH)
THEN US NAVASI KI SHAADI HO JAYE
AUR USKE BACHE HO TOH  KYA TUMHARI GHERAT GAVARA KAREGI KI JISKI MAA NAVASI KA RISHTA RAKHITI THIH USKI BETI SE SHAADI KAR LOGEY?
KHUD SOCHO KI KYA TUMHARI GHERAT GAVARA KAREGI KI APNI NAVASI SE SHAADI KAR LO?
KYA HAZRAT UMAR KO GHERAT NAHI AAYI?
AB YE MAT KEHNA KI ARAB MAI US WAQT HO JAAYA KARTI THIH,,,ISLAM ARABI LAWS SE NAHI CHALTA AUR US WAQT DEEN KE AHKAMAAT MUKKAMMAL THEH AUR HAIN TOH TAB BHI SHADI KARADI NAVASI SE?
ARAB MAI HO JAATI US WAQT..WHAT A STUPID ANSWER IS THIS lolzz
ARAB MAI TOH APNI BETI BAHU MA PHUPPI SE LOG SHADI KAR LETE THEH TOH KYA WOH SAHI THHA?
IS BEGHAIRAT BAAT MAI AAP APNE DOSRE KHALIFA KO TOH UCCHAL HI RAHE HAIN,,,
MAGAR ISLAMIC LAWS KE KHILAAF JAKAR ULTI SEEDHI BATEN BHI PHAILA RAHE HAIN AUR 
ISMAI TOH AP ALI A.S KO HI BADNAAM KAR RAHE HAIN KI UNHONE SHARIYATON KE KHILAAF JAKAR RASOOL S.A.W KE SASUR APNI BETI KI SHAADI KARA DI.......
DEKHA JAYE TOH YE BHI KAHA JAYEGA KI 
JI NAHI AISA KUCH NAHI HUA THHA 
KI UMAR NE GALE LAGAYA BOSE DIYE...
MAI POCHTA HOON KI AAP LOG KEHTE HAIN NA KI ALI A.S APNI LADKI BHEJI UMAR KO JI WOH PASAND KARTE HAIN YA NAHI?
KYA ALI A.S AISA KARTE?? KI LO BETI PASAND AAYE TOH SHAADI KAR LEN AUR AKELE MAI USKE SAATH BHEJ DEN KI JO ABHI NAMEHRAM HAIN?
KHAIR MAI AAPSE POCHNA CHAHTA HOON KUCH SAWAL
KYA TUM APNI NAVASI SE SHAADI KAR LOGEY?
KYA TUM APNI BETI KO KISI NAMEHRAM KO AKELE MAI BHEJOGE KI YE LO CHECK KAR LO PASAND AAYE TOH SHADI KAR LENA ?
KYA TUMHARI GHAIRAT GAVARA KARTI HAI KI USKO APNI BETI DE DO JO TUMHARE BHAI KO HI MUSIBAT MAI CCCHOD BHAAG JAATA THHA?

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یہ معلومات فراہم کرنے کے لئے شکریہ

it doesn't matter if u have a difference of opinion but keep ur arguments under limit else I have to say "Lanat he Khumeeni pe "

Mr. Raja Amir Javed,
what do u mean by saying 'keep ur arguments under limit' ???
You people insult Janabe Umme Kulthum(AS) through this fake marriage and we Shias cannot even defend her by proving you wrong ???

Why don't you keep your mouth shut when you don't know the truth ???
I ADVICE ALL THE PEOPLE , NOT TO RELATE THE HOLY PERSONALITY OF JANABE UMME KULTHUM(AS) TO UMAR. ITS A GREAT SIN AND PROPHET (sawa) WOULD QUESTION YOU FOR THIS INSULT OF HIS GREAT GRAND DAUGHTER.

aap sb shia hazrat se guzarish hai k ye saari information apni mazhab ki books main parh lo. agar ye saari information ghalat hen to tumhare writers ne ye sab kiyon likha ??? usool e qafi . toosi or dusri books main ye ap parho phir sochna k ye ap k writer ne kiyon likha apni books main..

Mujhe Aap ki AQL per taajjub hota hai MR. Anonymous !!!!!

Shiao aur Sunniyo ki kitab me jo likha hai usi ka to jawab is post me aur doosre aur posts me diya gaya hai. Aur wo ye hai ke hamari Kitabo se kahibhi ye nahi saabit hota hai ke Ali(AS) ne apni beti Umme Kuthum ki Shaadi Umar se ki ho.
Ye Jhoota propoganda Sunni Aalim Karte aaye hai taaki Shiao ke nazdeek ye saabit ho jaye ke Ali (AS) aur Umar me Acche Taalloqaat the.

Aap Janab se Ghuzarish hai ke phir se is Shaadi per jitne posts hai is site per use mulayzha farmaye aur phir natija nikale ki aaya hamari Kitabo se aisi koi Shaadi saabit hoti hai bhi ya nahi !!!!

Note : Aur posts tak pahochne ke liya right me INDEX (COMPLETE BLOG) per click kijiye

Sub Sai Pahly tou Mai Lannat Bhejta Hoo Aisa Jhoot Likhny Waly Par Kyy... Bibi Kulsoom Ki Shadi Umar Sai Howi...... Is Jhoot Ko Sabit Karny Ky Liye Mai Yai Kaho Ga Ky Hazarat Umar Apna Rishta Bibi Fatima Ky Liye Rasool Pak Ky Pas Ayy... Tou Rasool Pak Nai Yai Rishta Thukra Diya Kiyo Kyy Hazarat Umar Ki Age Boht Ziyada Thi............Abb Sochny Ki Baat Yai Hai Kyy bibi Fatima Hazarat Umar Sai Kitni Choti Thi Tou Bibi Fatima Ki Byti Umar Sai Kitni Chooti Hongi.........Ary Lannat Hai Aisa Sochny Walo Par...........Imam Hassan Paida Howay.......Pihr Imam uhssain Paida Howay.........Sub Sai Akhri Mai Umee Kulsoom Paida howi Tou Kitni Choti Hongi Wo Umar Sai......Socho Yar Hoash Ky Nakhoon Lo Jahiilloo

ye haqeqat hai agar kisi shia scolar is baat ko sahi mantay hain jaisay imam kohi se jab ye sawal kiya gaya tuun ka jawab dekhain : http://www.al-khoei.us/fatawa2/index.php?id=9
سوال : کیا یہ صحیح ہے کہ امام علی عليه السلام نے بیٹی کی شادى دوسرے خلیفہ سے كی ہے ؟
جواب :ہاں ایسا تاریخ اور روايات میں ہے

Anonymous Bhai, Aap ka tarjuma galat hai. Aap "HAAN" kahan se le aaye? Usme likha hai ki aisa tareekhi kitabon me maujood hai. Aur ye main bhi maanta hoon ki Maujood Hai. Be-imaani buri baat hai. Galat tarjuma na karein. Shia kitabon mein ya sunni kitabon mein ye wazeh nahi hai. Imam Khoi ke wakil aur unke Student "Agaa Mohammed Mossavi" ise shia aqeede ke khilaaf mante hain. Aur Ek sunni aalim wa Mufakkir Pir Syed Abdul Qadir Jilani ne sunni kitabon se sabit kiya hai ke agar koi sunni is baat ka motakid ho ki Umar ki shadi Umm-e-Kulsum se huwi thi to phir usne umar ki tauheen ki hai. Aap ye videos yahan dekh sakte hain :
http://www.wilayat.net/index.php/en/shia-sunni/69-imam-ali-as/695-sunni-scholar-pir-syed-abdul-qadir-jilani-destroys-the-myth-of-marriage-of-umm-kulthum-with-umar

Tum logon ko sharam aani chahiye kay sahaba se bughz rakhtay huay tum nay blog bana rakhay hain. lanat ho tum logon par!

Mr. Anonymous,
Tum log jo chahe khurafaat daalo internet per aur Rasool aur islam ka mazaak banao aur humne Umar ke naam per blog banaya tu tumhe bura lag raha hai. Tum Umar per imaan laye ho ya islam per ?? Sahaba se koi Shia bughz nahi rakhta. Shia sirf un sahaba ko bura kehte hai jinhone Rasool(SAWA) aur Aale Rasool(SAWA) ko sataya. Isme bura kya hai agar bure ko bura kaha jaye ???

Khuda aur Rasool(SAWA) ke laaanat ho usper jisne aakhri waqt Rasool(SAWA) ke Aql per shak kiya aur unko Qalam aur Qakaz dine se inkaar kiya AUR un per bhi laanat ho jo ye jaante hue bhi aise logon ki himayat karte hai aur unhe Sahaba kehte hai

Mr Anonymous.. i had read all the posts.. and come to the end like this.. Jab bhi Mr Abdullah koi saboot paish kerta ha to tum us k javab ma usko ghalat sabit kerny ki bjaay new question arais ker dety ho.. or jab Mr Abdullah uska bhi bakaaida havalon sa javab deta ha to ap Mr Anonymous us k javab ma ya to new topic strt ker dety ho ya phir laan taan kerna shuru ker dety ho.. .. mera khyal ma ye sahi nhi ha.. ap saboot ko saboot sa jhota sabit nhi ker saky abhi tak.. isi lia mera mashwera ha k ya to maan jao (or is ma koi burai bhi nhi ha) ya phir khamoshi sa apna akeeda continue rakho . bcoz hakikat ko Tableegh ki zarurat nhi hoti.. vo apn aap manwa leti ha.. jesy bhi manwaay..

Mr Abdullah Its for you..

“The moment you start arguing with an ignorant fool, you have already lost.”

Hazrat Ali (A.S)

Mr Anonymous you are jest acting like a small child plz grow up

Thanks for arguments against such an impossible nikah

مولا علی علیہ سلام کہ کتنے بیٹے تہے ان کہ نام بتائے

Why So many Conflicts in this group? Why there are so many things to prove? Just a simple question, Umar aur Rasool (pbuh) rishte me kya hain? Umar ke beti ki shadi Rasool (pbuh) se hui thi? agar ye sahi hai toh Janabe Umme Kulsoom to Umar ki Poti hui? Shadi poti se karliya?

آپ لوگوں کی تمام کاوشوں کا تہ دل سے شکرگزار ہوں - میں نے ١٢ سال تبلیغی جماعت میں دھکے کھا کے، ٥ سال بریلویت اور ٤ سال وہابیت کی خاک چھان کے آخر کار شیعت کو پڑھنا شروع کیا اور الحمدولللہ مجھے کوئی بھی بات جھوٹ نہیں ملی. اب یا تو پوری تاریخ، تمام سنیت کی کتابیں غلط ہیں اور اگر غلط ہی ہیں تو اسکے پیچھے چلنے کا کیا مطلب؟ الحمدوللہ مجھے الله نے سرات مستقیم دکھا دی اور میں شیعہ ہو گیا :)

Mughe ek baat samgh nahi aarahi hai jisne bhi is ko likha hai wo had darje ka jhil hai Umar r.a ko umar bolta hai jaan lo jisne prophet ke shaba se dousmani usne unse dusmani ki aur jo Prophet ka dusman uska to thikana Jahannam hai.
Mere bhaiyioo insab tipic ko choro logo deen battooo na ki in sab topic pe baat karo wo allah se razi allah unse razi to hum kon hai unke beech me aane wale..

Mere pyare bhai DANISH KHAN,
AAPKO KYON se samajh nahi aa raha hai ke hum Umar ko Umar sahaba hone ki bina per nahi Balki Unhone jo Islam aur Aale Rasool ko Nuksaan Pahouchaya hai us bina per kehte hain ??????
Aap hi ne to kaha hain na : K jo Nabi ka Dushman wo Khuda ka Dushman aur uska thikaana Jahannam hai.
Humara maanna ye hain k munafeqeen bhi to sahaba me hi se the jinke baare me Surah munafeqoon naazil huwa.
Sahaba aam insaan the koi maasoom to the nahi.!!!!!
Aur unhi Sahaba me se kuch munafiq bhi the jinhone Rasool(SAWA) ko sataya..., Jung se bhaage, Rasool(SAWA) ki Aql per Aitraaz kiya , Kagaz Kalaam nahi diya, Rasool(SAWA) ke bazm me unchi awaaz me baat ki , Rasool(SAWA) ke beti se fidak chhena, Rasool(SAWA) ke beti ka ghar jalaya, Islaam me bidatein ijaad ki....!!!
Kya ye sab kaafi nahi hain us sahabi ko bura kehne me !!!!! Aur Aap hain ke Shiaon per naaraz ho rahi hain jabke ye sab baatein shia - sunni kitabon me maujood hain.
Deen kaise batayein bina ye jaane ke kiski payrwi karni chahiye. Bataye ye Aap????

PHIR AAKHIR KYON AAP UMAR KO BURA NAHI KEHTE....

Hazraat umar (r.z) ki shadi Umm Kulthum bint Ali (r.z) se hue the ye tum nay jo kuch b likha hai bakwas hai haam nae mante tumhare kitabo ko q k tumhare all to all kitab jhote hain galat likhe v hain khumene se ebrat hasil karo shia usko kesa Azab diya ALLAH nay dunia me he dikhaa diya janaza uska 3 baar giraa tha sambhal jao bhae ALLAH se maafe mang lo abhe b waqt hai nae karo gustakhiya Allah k nabe naay farmaya mere baad koi nabe Huta To wo

Kya kehna Ali KK tumhara,
Hamari Kitabe jhooti aur aap bade sacche ........
Khomeini ne Islam ko Ruswa nahi kiya. hai ..
Tum log Islam ko Badnaam kar rahe ho. Dekho ISIS kaun hai. Sunni YA Shia......?????!!!!!!

books ko nahi manty to hadis ko man lo jis main nabi S.A.W.W ne farmaya
agar mery bad koi nabi hota to umer hota
ya nabi ki hadis hy isy koi nahi jhutla sakta

Janab alone aahil,

Ye Hadith : " Agar mere baad koi nabi hota to Umar hote " Sahih Nahi hai.......

Aap ne jo hadis bayan ki hai wo sahih nahi hai kyonki ye hadith quran aur sunnate rasool ke khilaaf hai.
1. Allah ne 12400 nabi bheje. In sabhi nabiyon ne kabhi bhi ek lamhe ke liye bhi bot parasti nahi ki, elaan e nabuwaat se pehle ya baad me.
2. Hazrat Mohammed Mustafa ( s.a.w.a) ne elaan e nabuwat se pehle bhi kabhi bhi boton ke aage sajda nahi kiya.
3. Umar ki zindagi ka ek bahot bada arsa bot parasti me guzra, is liye Umar kabhi nabi ban hi nahi sakte the...
4. Aap ne jo hadith bayan ki hai ye bani umayya ke zamana ki gadi gayi taake khilafat e umar aur abu bakr ko jayez karaar diya ja sake aur baad me yahi hadith ne sihah e sittah me jagah bana li.
5. Agar ye hadith wakiyi Rasool (S.a.w.a) ne farmayi hoti to phir Umar ne saqifa me khilafat ke mamle me ansaar ki saamne ye hadith kyon nahi pesh ki ...???????.
6. Agar ye hadith sahih hai to phir Umar ko baad e rasool(s.a.w.a) khalifa hona chahiye tha. Abu Bakr khalifa kaise ban gaye.
7. Agar ye hadith sahih hai to phir Abu Bakr ne Umar ko apna jaanasheen kyon muqarrar kiya. ?? Kyon nahi logon se kaha ke Umar ko khalifa banao kyonki Umar ke baare me ye hadith maujood hai. ???
8. Agar ye hadith sahi hai to phir Umar ke ye kaul ka kya kare jo sunni kitabo me maujood hai ke " agar Ali na hote to Umar halaak ho jaata"
9. Ye Hadith Quran ki Aaayaton ki raushni me saabit nahi ki ja sakti.
10. Musalmaan banne se pehle Umar ne daure jehaalat me apne beti ko zinda dafan kiya aur Sharaab bhi pete the( Sunni kitabo me ye baat likhi hui hai ). In sab baaton se ye saabit hai ke Umar ke paas Nabi banne ki koi qualification maujood nahi thi.

Boht achi beaten ki ap ny hazzrat ali r.z sehr_e_khuda ny itna arssa Kis cheez ka intzar kiya Alan jang kiu na kiya un khalaf jhoot ki koi had hoti h 1 tarf beta h k 72tan ALLHA ky rasty mai dy k zalim k samny daat gy or mola ali Kis ka intzar krty rehy aur jawab hai.......?

islam ata'at ka naam hay mojzaat dikhlanay ka nahi, jubtuk allah or uskay rasool ka hukm na hu, ali(as) ki talwar nayam se nahi nikli. rasoolallah(saw) ki wasiyat thi kay Ali jubtuk inkay khilaf talwar na uthana jubtuk 40 aadmi tumhate sath na hon. zulm bardasht karna! or yehi hua, jubtuk usman kay qatal kay baad logon nay khud aakay bayt nahi ki tubtuk zulfiqar nahi nikli

1. Allah qaadir e mutlaq hain na ??? to phir shaitan ko logon ko behkhane k liye kyon chhod rakkha hai ????
2. Allah k Nabi ne sulah hudaibiya me kuffar se sulah ki to kya ham keh sakte hai k Nabi Paak kuffar se darr gaye ????
3. Rasool Allah Haj karne gaye the aur kaafi taadad me musalmaan the phir bhi Rasool Allah ko Kaafiron ne Haj karne nahi diya lekin Rasool Allah ne jung nahi ki.
4. Kaun kehta hai k Maula Ali ne khilafat ke liye ehtejaaj nahi kiya. Tamaam shiya sunni kitabon me maujood hai k Ali(as) ne Abu bakr ki khilafat ko kabool nahi kiya tha.
5. Magar Ali (as) ne jung nahi ki kyonki Rasool Allah ki wasiyat thi : " Aye Ali agar tumhe saathi na mile to tum sabr karna aur jihad nahi karna"
6. Jab logon ne hi Abu Bakr ki khilafat qabool karli to Ali (as) ne logon ko unke haal per chhod diya bilkul usi tarah jis tarah Haroon(as) ne Bani Israeliyon ko chhod diya jab wo logon ne Haroon(as) ko nahi maana aur saamri k behkhane per bacchde ke ibadat karne lage.

Geo Abdullah Sb Salaam Ho ap Pa.

Abdullah bhai jo shaks khaiber k kile ko angoothe pr rkhkr aasman me ura de aajtak wapas na aye use 40 logo ki kya zarurat thi????Wo to akela he kaafi hae ....

40 admiyon ki zarurat mola ko nahi thi bulkay un chalees ko thi jinko deen sekhna or uspe chalna tha mgr afsos ummat gumrah ho gaye!

rasoolallah ko mushwara dene waley ap or main kon hote hain by the way? unse deen lena farz hay or mushwaraey dena Haram!

Sab se pehli baat to yeh hai ke shia firqe ka yeh aqeedah hai ke jo QŮR'AAN aaj hum musalmaano ke laas hai qoh tehreef shuda hai. Jab me AL'LAAH TA'AALA Ka Farmaan hai ke QUR'AAN Ki Hifaazat ka Zimma AL'LAAH ne khud liya hai. To jis ne AL'LAAH TA'AALA Ke Qaul ka inkaar kiya us bina par woh kaafir hai.

Javed Shaikh
kea kehnay ap k
shia wohe Quran prhtay hain zara dimag say kam lo bhai.

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Janab Javed Shaikh Sahab,
Shia aqeeda hargeez ye nahi hai k Quran me tehreef hui hai aur shia hazrat ki ghar me wahi 30 paaro waala 114 suroh ka quran hota hai jo aur musalmaano k ghar me hota hai. Is baat ki tasdeeq aap khud kar sakte hain.
Aap kisi bhi shia ghar ya masjid me jaake check kar sakte hain.
Raha sawaal tehreef k baare me jo baate maujood hai to wo sirf shia kitabon me nahi balki bahot saari sunni kitabon me bhi maujood hai.
Magar koi bhi shia ya sunni tehreef e Quran ka qayal nahi hai.Shia tehreef se mutaaliq jo bhi kitabon me aaya hai use zaef(weak) jaante hain.
Aap k Ulema ne ye zehar aap logon k zehen me daala hai k shia tehreef k qayal hai is liye Kaafir hai....
Aap ko chahiye hai k khud pata lagaye aur jhutton per laanat karein.

mera sunni wahabi deobandi ahle hades hazrat say sirf eik sawal hai jo malomat rakhta ho woh jawab day lakin tasali baksh jazak allha

Islam is not about trying to disgrace someone Islam is all about to learn and do good as told.
So arguments over arguments have never taken anywhere. What were the relations of family members and companions of Rasool Allah SAW we all know and they are in the books of history.
Only thing to mention is our success is not in finding or proving something off of the history.
If you believe in One All and Last Prophet Rasool Allah SAW and hist message that is for you and there is no requirement to work or prove relations of family members and friends and companions of the Prophet Rasool Allah SAW.
Our Imaan is all were good people and were successful people. Now who we are, are we good and successful and are we doing good and putting time to do good or just trying prove something which is for the sake of personal satisfaction. These things will never take anyone anywhere. It is actually waste of time. Best use is try to be nice, clean of hatred and do good to et blessings of Allah which will make us successful in all worlds

Dear Brother Sam sm,
You are right Islam is not about disgracing anybody.What we have recorded here is found in History. This to show to our brothers that all the Companions of the Prophet were not righteous. This is important for us to know because we were not there at that time and it is very important for us to know whom to follow in the matter of religion after Prophet(SAWA), so that we could follow the real sunnah of Prophet(SAWA) and the real Islam which is free from contamination.

Brother, it is due to wrong Intepretation of Islam that ISIS , al Qaida and Wahabis are evolved from it.

In such a period of Islamophobia it is our utmost duty to return to the correct teaching of Islam.

Saheeh kaha
Salam hai apko sau bar Abdullah bhai
Hazar jawab diay ap nay dalel k sath lakin jab in k pa koi jawab nahi hota to aik jihalat say bhara naya farsooda baybunyad ilzam lay kar a jatay hain
yaqeen karain agar kisi aik bhi sunni ko hidayat ho to zara ghaur say ap ki batain perh k fikr karay
Sunni bhaiyo jo jawab us nay diay hain zara samjho to sahi
time lo research kero aur neutral ho k soch

Tm faisla karo
Agar us daur main paida hotay to kis ki fauj main jatay
Ali ki ya Moaviya ki
Diplomacy say kam nahi lo jawab do
Mera faisla yahy hai k man Ali ki fauj main jata aur jo bhy samnay ata usay janhannum wasil kerta qk jo Ali ka duhsman woh Rasool s ka dushman jo Rasul s ka dushman woh Allah ka dushman
a straight ticket to hell

Dosto jo shia hazrat nhe hein wo is jesi sites se dor rahe. Apna eman kharab na karen
I hope our all understood the

Sons of IMAM ALI A.S

HAZRAT IMAM HASSAN A.S
HAZRAT IMAM HUSSAIN A.S
HAZRAT MOHSIN A.S
Muhammad Osat
HAZRAT MUHAMMAD HANFIA
Yahya
Aoun
HAZRAT ABBAS A.S AKBER QAMER BANI HASHIM
Hazrat Abdulla (a.s)
Hazarat Imran (a.s)
Hazrat Jafer (a.s)
Mohammad Asghar
Abduallah
Ahmed
Abdullah Osat
Umair Atraf
Abbas Asghar
Muhammad Asghar
Ibrahim

Rafizii ho app deakho bahi app joh bibi ka house jalanay ki baat kartay hoo toh issay tean jawab sunoo aur agar sachay hoo toh logical jawab doo agar tumhari biwi bachay ko kkoi maray tum usko aik lafz nhi bologay uski shura ka hissa banoogay uskay khilaf qisas nhi loogay hazrat ali darpook nhi naoozobillahh woh allah kay shear hai meri wife ko koi touch karay main nhi choroo ali nay kyun chora and app bohat baray jahil hoo app ko yeah bhi nhi pata kay abu bakr umer ali yeah tean rasool kay sath thay usman ra bhagay thay quran main allah bolta hai lanatullah ellahay johhtay par allah ki lanat abb app soochloo main naa sunni hoo na shia bas muslim hoo quran nay muslim banaya hai shia ya sunni

Wah bahi hum bhi ali kay sath hotay magar app in bHi ki baat manoo gay jinko yeah nhi pata kay umar nhi bhagay usman bhagay toh appka emman ka kia hoga bahi khud book parhoo

Hazrat umar ko nabi hai ya kisa na kahi hai umar buhut bada kahlif huzoor saw ka satiay hai umar ko huzoor ne faruq naam se nawaza hai bast kahlif the wold

Hazrat.abubakr hazrat umar se zayda kareeb thi huzoor se aur sar musalmaan ne fast khalif abubakr ko banay hai

Zubair Ahmed Bhai,
Agar Huzoor ne Abu Bakr ya Umar ko Khalifa banaya hota apni zindagi me to hame bhi qubool hota ,
magar mushkil ye hai janaab inhe logon ne apna khalifa banaya hai.

Aur waise Huzoor ke sabse qareeb aur fazilat waale Hazrat Ali ke siwa aur koi nahi tha.

Meray pyary bhai Nabi Pak jo k Ghaib ka ilm rakhty thay kia unhain Maloom ni hoga k Umar Kuch ghlt krain gay bad mein? Unka rutba unho ny aisy hee bayan kr diya k Mery bad koi Nabi hota to umar hota

Yeh mere baad nabi hota wali hadees Gher mustanad hay,

Jahan tuk baat rahi kay rasool kay pas ilm-e-ghyeb ho or wuh phir bhi sath rukha - tu Allah kay pas ZATI ilm-e-gheyb hay or jub SALEH (As) ki qom nay oontni ka mojza manga, tu Allah nay dia - pahar se oontni nikali, bacha dia, or phir qom nay bachey ko bhi kaat dala or oontni ko bhi - Allah ko nahi pata tha kay yeh qom kia karegi? tu kyun dikhaya mojza?

Quran kehta hay - mera rasool sirf or sirf wuhi karta hay ju uska rab kehta hay - ab allah chahta tha kay ummat ko aazmaye, kay yeh rasool aur aale rasool kay peechey chalte hain ya omar abu bakar kay - rasta choose kar lain apna apna!

Janab Arslan bhai, Yaqinan Huzoor ko Ilme Gaib tha...magar iska matlab ye to nahi hai ke Jurm hone se pehle kisi ko saza de di jaaye...
Aur Jo hadees aapne bayaan ki hai ke "agar mere baad koi nabi hota to wo Umar hote"
1. Ye hadees jaali hai...( aur is baat ko ham ne bahot se post me saabit ki hai )
2. Nabi kabhi ye keh hi nahi sakte kyonke unke baad koi nabi nahi aane waala tha...ye baat muhaal hai.
3. Umar ki aadhi se zyada zindagi butpareshti me guzri hai aur 124000 Nabiyon me se aap koi aisa Nabi bata dijiye jisne kabhi butpareshti ki ho???
4. Umar , kabhi kabhi Sharaab bhi peete the...Islam laane se pehle ( aisa bahot se kitabon me milta hai ),, ab aap bataiye kabhi kisi nabi ne kabhi sharaab khori ki hai ???
Is liye Umar nabi hote ye hadees Jaali hai !!

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