“Whilst on his deathbed, Umar became deeply affected by the wound and his physician asked Umar ‘Which alcohol would you like to drink?’ Umar said ‘alcohol called nabidh is my preferred choice. This drink was then administered to Umar”.
I quote below a reference form Sunni books:
Riyadh al Nadira Volume 2 page 351
I quote below a reference form Sunni books:
Riyadh al Nadira Volume 2 page 351
nauz billah if you raise the point caliph umar similarly many cursed raise same question of MOLA ALI A.S ALSO SO WHAT YOU SAY SO PLEASE DO NOT SEE SAHABAS LIKE THIS WAY THE SAHABA WHO IS NEXT TO RASOOL ALLAH DO YOU THINK ALLAH WILL PUT SIN FULL NEXT TO HIS RASOOL
ReplyDeleteWhat is Nabidh? It is a drink made of grapes; it is an Arab grape-juice. Since when is grape-juice Haram? After Umar left alcohol, he took up grape-juice as his favorite drink. As even a half-wit knows, wine is made by fermented grapes. Fermentation means that the drink is left out for so long that it grows yeast and thereby becomes toxic. Therefore, the conclusion we reach is that grape-juice is Halal but if it becomes fermented, then it becomes Haram. Thus, Nabidh is Halal if it hasn’t fermented. We can find the following fatwa on Al-Islam.com which says quite clearly: “Permissibility of Nabidh which is not ripe nor becomes intoxicant” (http://hadith.al-islam.com/Bayan/tree.asp?Lang=eng&ID=712)
ReplyDeleteA MAN Who is next to RASOOL ALLAH DO you think ALLAH Will put a sinfull next to HIS beloved RASOOL
ReplyDeleteSIMILER ALLEGATIONS ARE DONE BY WAHABIS ON MOLA ALI A.S SO WE CAN NOT COUNT THOSE STUPID ALLEGATIONS BUT WE SEE THE SAHABAS AND BELOVED FRIENDS OF PROPHET NOT THE BOOKS , THOSE BOOKS CAN BE WRONG BUT PIOUS SAHABAS CANT BE
I agree but do you have any negative reference from any book of Islam whether it be of Shia sect or Sunni sect against Hazrat Ali a.s??? But yeah their are dozens of them against so called Hazrat Umar r.a.
DeleteNabidh refers to grape-juice or alternatively also to date-juice. Either way, it is considered a juice, and only when it ferments does it become Haram. Nobody would ever be so bold as to declare the juice from grapes to be Haram, but if it is allowed to sit for a long time, it will rot and then grow yeast (thereby becoming fermented). It is this yeast which gives the drink its toxic effects, and this is the same process used by alcohol manufacturers even today.
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The Prophet rejected the drink because he noticed fermentation. Otherwise, the Prophet commonly drank Nabidh which was not fermented yet. There are many narrations to this effect:
In Sahih Muslim (3748), it is narrated by Anas: “I served honey, juice (Nabidh), water, and milk in my cup for Allah’s Messenger to drink from.”
In another narration also in Sahih Muslim (3747), it is narrated by Sahl bin Sa’d: “…Allah’s Messenger then set forth on that day along with his Companions to the Saqifah of Banu Sa’idah and sat there. He (the Messenger) then said to Sahl: ‘Serve us to drink.’ He (Sahl) said: ‘I brought out for them this bowl with juice (Nabidh) and served them.’”
Sahl bin Sa’d narrated in Sahih Muslim (3746): “Abu Usaid Al-Sa’idi invited Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) to his wedding feast, and his wife had been serving them on that day while yet a bride. Sahl said: ‘Do you know what she served as drink to Allah’s Messenger?’ She had soaked the dates in water during the night in a big bowl, and when he (the Holy Prophet) had eaten food she served him this drink (Nabidh).”
Based on this, we can only conclude that Nabidh is a harmless juice made out of either grape-juice or date-juice. It is commonly known that Nabidh is not forbidden unless it ferments and thereby becomes toxic. The Shia of Answering-Ansar are simply preying on the ignorance of its English-speaking audiences. This was a very deceptive argument, and it really brings to question the credibility of Answering-Ansar who use such dishonest arguments. Perhaps it is that they enjoy doing Taqiyyah (deceit) since it is part of their faith to do so. SO FOR GOD SAKE EDUCATED YOUR SELF BEFORE POINT OUT STUPID ARGUMENTS
Don't compare Ali(AS) with Umar. There is no comparision between the two. Ali(AS) was born and brought up under the infallible guardianship of Holy Prophet(SAWA). He never worship idols for single moment in his life while Umar and other companions of Prophet(SAWA) had a long history of idol worshipping and other practices of the time of Ignorance.
ReplyDeleteBefore calling our research work as stupidity I would advice you to go through the site thoroughly and read the posts available on this website.
You would come to know whatever we have posted on this site are from your sunni books and these cannot be cooked stories of Shias.
You said : Those near cannot be wronged. Do you have any proof to support your claim ?????
Quran has condemned the wives of Nooh (AS) and Lut(AS) on the basis of their Kufr. So nearness to Prophet(SAWA) can be useful only if it is supported by complete and absolute obedience. Where was Umar in uhud ???
Go and Read history and decide it yourself !!!!!
history can be wronged or faked cause its done by 1 person but fact cant be change ALLAH will never allow any sinful person next to his beloved messenger
ReplyDeleteand i did not compared Ali r.z to ummar r.z but ALi was with ummar r.z all the time when ummar sentenced women to stone to death ALi guided him means both were together as friends and you curse one friend and praise other no problem but in end time Ali A.s will himself curse people like you to hell
ReplyDeleteAli advised Umar to save the innocent woman from being killed and this does not prove in any way that there was friendly relation between Ali (AS) and Umar.
ReplyDeletePlease go and read in your books how Ali (AS) and his Family were tortured by Umar and Abu Bakr after the event in Saqifa .....
The truth would become clear to you as to Why we Shias curse the enemies of Ali (AS) and his family.!!!!
Mr. Ishaque,
ReplyDeleteWho told u that history is written by 1 person and it is fake.????????
There are innumerable Muslim historians who have written the early history of Islam.
How could all of them be fake or liars.....???
Were Umar and Abu Bakr buried beside the Holy Prophet (SAWA) on the order of Allah Or His Prophet(SAWA) ????.
If NOT !!!
Then their burial beside the Prophet (SAWA) by the people is not going to save them from Hell fire ( on account of their misdeeds to Prophet and his family )
Hazrat umer jaisa koi nae agr mery nabi k bad koi rasool hoty tw wo Hazrat umer hoty.
ReplyDeleteNabi aisa farmaayenge kyon ....k mere baad koi nabi hota to umar hote......????
ReplyDeleteJabke Nabi sawa jaante the k unke baad koi nabi nahi aane waala.
doosra ye k ye hadith jhooti hai ...kyonki nabi ya nabi ka jaanasheen kabhi but parasti nahi kar sakta jabke Umar ki accchi khaasi zindagi but parasti me guzri thi.....
Exactly
DeleteShak krne ki jurat na kren , agr sahabi R.A ne Islam qabul kr k zindgi ka bra hissa faqeeri me guzara ha to unko kia lalach thi Islam qabul kr k bs Bugaz rkhne ki???? & jb b koi nuqsan wali bat hoti to waahi nazil hojati rhi , ALLAH kbhi apne mehbob S.A.W.W ko dhoky baz sath nai dega , asi sohbt nai dega jo OS k bd ase kch ghalat kry , r hazrat Ali r.a ka he qool ha k : insan ki pehchan unky Dotson se hoti ha" ap huzur pak s.a.w.w ko indirectly phr ghlt keh rhy hn , r koi hadees ap he suna den k in sahabiyah k barey me nabi pak s.a.w.w ne kch kaha ho k ye munafiqen hn ya dozkhi ??? Jb insan emaan it ata ha to is k pichky gunah muaf ho jaty hn , do u really think k ALLAH ase logon ko muslman bna k nabi pak s.a.w.w ki sohbat me rkhy ga r zindgi guzr jae ge mgr nabi pak s.a.w.w ko aware ni krwaya jae ga waahi ki se k in se dur rhen ??? Jb b kisi sahabi ka koi critical waqaia hua to Quran me bayan hua k jesy zaid bin HARIS r.a ka waqaia ha , asa kch ghlt hona hota to ALLAH RAHEEM o KAREEM nabi pak s.a.w.w ki zindgi me he waahi nazil frma k jihad ka hukum krdeta ase munafiqen k liye, ALLAH apne mehbob se itna pyar krta k koi koshish koi zrurt koi chez ki kmi na hone deta rehlat k waqt r mukml itmenan se r sakun se rooh qabz ki gai bilkul sahi waqt pe , ap shia log ghoma phirna k brain wash acha kr lety hn, r akhri bat hazrat fatima r.a nabi pak s.a.w.w ki beti thi , unki shadi hogai to do ghr se rkhst hogai jldi , r nabi pak s.a.w.w ne apni tmam zojah ko brabr waqt dena hota Insaf k sth, phr duniawi mamlaat mrdon r sathiyon k sth solve b krne hoty , ibadten b hoti r ghr k kam b r jihad b , hazrat fatima r.a se kesy zeada hadees narrat ho skti thi ya kisi r se, jb k ayesha r.a unko sb se mehbob thi r baqi sahaba k sth zeada waqt guzra gya nabi pak s.a.w.w ka , who are u to try tackle ppl here to brain their wash , if u think u r right then prove it k ALLAH ne dunia me apne mehbob ko srf r srf fatima r Ali r.a mukhlis diye , baqi kisi ki mehnt k bgair Islam itna pehla r brha , Kia nabi pak s.a.w.w ki seerat me koi kmi thi k unki sohbt me emaan lane k bd koi ni bdl ska ?? Ya jo jo emaan laye wo sb sahabion ki tra thy?? For GOD SAKE , ALLAH jisy chahy izzt deta ha , ruswa krna hota to taqdeer ALLAH ne khd likhi ha wo osi waqt benaqab hoty r itni izzt r chahne waly na hoty, wrna aj yazeed kisi ka nam nai ha r sahaba k nam k lakhon milengy , ase shia community ko he q zrurt mehsos hui srf tnqeed krne k liye ye blog khola hua ha r koi asi website btain jisme aleast ap apne achy kirdar se sabit kren k Ali.R.A ne kia kia frmaya, ta k logon tak positive knowledge jae , negative nai
ReplyDelete“Oh allah! give islam strength islam through one of d men u love more.umar ibn al khattab or amr bin al hisham(abu jahl)”.....prophet mohammed(p.b.u.h)
ReplyDeleteNd the next day umar(r.a) went to prophet mohammed(pbuh) nd granted islam ...allahu akbar allahu akbar
Mr. Shaikh tabrez....all these are fake traditions to create an impression that Umar was important for Islam.
ReplyDeleteBewakuf umar r.a was the first person who asked prophet Muhammad salallahu alaihi wa sallam to ban alcohol. But he pbuh said that he is waiting for the revelation from allah.Therefore allah revealed ayah to ban alcohol.
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