As the Sunnis cannot deny the authenticity of the hadith of Ghadir, they try to downplay its significance by saying that the word "mawla" in this hadith means 'friend', and that the Holy Prophet wanted to announce that: "Whoever whose friend I am, 'Ali is his friend!"
The trouble is that not a single person who was present in Ghadir grasped this alleged meaning. Hassan ibn Thabit, the famous poet of the Holy Prophet, composed a poem and recited it before the audience, in which he said:
The Prophet then said to him: "Stand up, O Ali, As I am pleased to make you Imam and Guide after me."
'Umar ibn al-Khattab congratulated Ali these words:
"Congratulations, O son of Abu Talib, this morning you became mawla of every believing man and woman.''
If mawla means 'friend' then why the congratulations? And was 'Ali 'enemy' of all believing men and women before that time, so that 'Umar said that 'this morning' you became friend of them all?
al-Imam 'Ali (a. s.) himself wrote to Mu' awiyah: "And the Messenger of Allah granted to me his authority over you on the day of Ghadir Khumm. [1]
And there are many other Companions of the Holy Prophet who used in their poems the word
"mawla" in connection with Ghadir Khumm in the sense of "master".
Countless scholars of the Qur'an, Arabic grammar and literature have interpreted the word "mawla " as "awla " which means "having more authority " . The names of the following scholars may be quoted here as examples:
References:
Ibn 'Abbas (in his Tafsir, on the margin of ad-Durru 'l-manthur, vol. 5, p. 355);
al-Kalbi (as quoted in at-Tafsiru 'l-kabir of ar-Razi, vol. 29. p.227;
al-Alusi, Ruhu 'l-ma'ani, vol. 27, p. 178); al-Farra', (ar-Razi, ibid.; al-Alusi, ibid.);
Abu 'Ubaydah Mu'ammar ibn Muthanna alBasri (ar-Razi, ibid.; and ash-Sharif al-Jurjani, Sharhu 'l-mawaqif, vol. 3, p. 271);
al- Akhfash al-Awsat (in Nihayatu 'l-'uqul);
al-Bukhari (in as-Sahih, vol.7, p. 240);
Ibn Qutaybah (in al Qurtayn, vol.2, p.164);
Abu'l-'Abbas Tha'lab (in Sharhu 's-sab'ah al-mu'allaqah of az-Zuzani);
at-Tabari (in his Tafsir, vol.9, p. 117);
al-Wahidi (in al-Wasit); ath-Tha'labi (in al-Kashf wa 'l-bayan);
az-Zamakhshari (in al-Kashshaf, vol. 2, p. 435); al-Baydawi (in his Tafsir, vol.2, p. 497);
an-Nasafi (in his Tafsir, vol. 4, p. 229); al-Khazin al-Baghdadi (in his Tafsir vol. 4, p. 229);
and Muhibbu'd-Din Afandi (in his Tanzilu 'l-ayat). [2]
Footnotes:
[1] Abu Dawud: as-Sunan, vol.4,pp.106-9;Ahmad: al-Musnad, vol.l, pp.377,430; vol.3, p.28;
al-Hakim: al-Mustadrak, vol. 4, pp. 557, 865.
al-Hakim: al-Mustadrak, vol. 4, pp. 557, 865.
[2] Malik: al-Muwatta', vol. 2, p. 60.
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instead of Vol and page number can we please have volno book no and hadith no
I will be greatful
peace be upon you all,
dear friend I suggest you please either mention Hadith number or refer your highness to Nahjul Balagah Sermon 91 & Sermon 205
you can also reach me @
lkyzahidmalik@gmail.com
oh! my brothers and sisters in Islam have mercy on yourself and on all of us where all this going to take you , read the last sermon of the holy Prophet and try to implement in your life. May ALLAH .SWT BE WITH YOU.
Mr. pridmire of kash,
Could u pl tell me that what have u found in sermon 91 & 205 of Nahjul Balagha which you want to use as a proof.???
It is better if we discuss here so that our discussion can be read by others as well.
Last sermon of Holy Prophet(SAWA) at Ghadir a Khum was regarding the Wilayat of Imam Ali (AS) which unfortunately was neglected by majority of Muslims !!
After swearing allegiance to Amir al-mu'minin, Talhah and az-Zubayr complained to him that he had not consulted them or sought their assistance in the affairs (of state).
Amir al-mu'minin replied:
ومن كلام له (عليه السلام)
كلّم به طلحة والزبير بعد بيعته بالخلافة
وقد عتبا من ترك مشورتهما، والاستعانة في الامور بهما
Both of you frown over a small matter and leave aside big ones. Can you tell me of anything wherein you have a right of which I have deprived you or a share which was due to you and which I have held away from you, or any Muslim who has laid any claim before me and I have been unable to decide it or been ignorant of it, or committed a mistake about it?
لَقَدْ نَقَمْتُما يَسِيراً، وَأَرْجَأْتُمَا كَثِيراً، أَلاَ تُخْبِرَانِي، أَيُّ شَيْء لَكُمَا فِيهِ حَقٌّ دَفَعْتُكُمَا عَنْهُ؟ وأَيُّ قَسْم اسْتَأْثَرْتُ عَلَيْكُمَا بِهِ؟ أَمْ أَيُّ حَقّ رَفَعَهُ إِلَيَّ أَحَدٌ مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ ضَعُفْتُ عَنْهُ، أَمْ جَهِلْتُهُ، أَمْ أَخْطَأْتُ بَابَهُ ؟!
By Allah, I had no liking for the caliphate nor any interest in government, but you yourselves invited me to it and prepared me for it. When the caliphate came to me, I kept the Book of Allah in my view and all that Allah had put therein for us, and all that according to which He has commanded us to take decisions; and I followed it, and also acted on whatever the Prophet - may Allah bless him and his descendants - had laid down as his sunnah. In this matter I did not need your advice or the advice of anyone else, nor has there been any order of which I was ignorant so that I ought to have consulted you or my Muslim brethren. If it were so I would not have turned away from you or from others.
وَاللهِ مَا كَانَتْ لِي فِي الْخِلاَفَةِ رَغْبَةٌ، وَلاَ فِي الْوِلاَيَةِ إِرْبَةٌ(3)، وَلكِنَّكُمْ دَعَوْتُمُونِي إِلَيْهَا، وَحَمَلْتُمُونِي عَلَيْهَا، فَلَمَّا أَفْضَتْ إِلَيَّ نَظَرْتُ إِلَى كِتَابِ اللهِ وَمَا وَضَعَ لَنَا، وَأَمَرَنَا بِالْحُكْمِ بِهِ فَاتَّبَعْتُهُ، وَمَا اسْتَسَنَّ النَّبِيُّ (صلى الله عليه وآله) فَاقْتَدَيْتُهُ، فَلَمْ أَحْتَجْ فِي ذلِكَ إِلَى رَأْيِكُمَا، وَلاَ رَأْيِ غَيْرِكُمَا، وَلاَ وَقَعَ حُكْمٌ جَهِلْتُهُ، فَأَسْتَشِيرَكُمَا وَإِخْوَانِي مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ; وَلَوْ كَانَ ذلِكَ لَمْ أَرْغَبْ عَنْكُمَا، وَلاَ عَنْ غَيْرِكُمَا.
Brothers what Ali(r.a) has mentioned is that He either has interest in Government nor in Caliphate, rather said, but you yourselves invited me to it and prepared me for it. When the caliphate came to me.
so it means that neither it was Almighty Allah's command nor was it Allah's Apostle's command to hold Caliphate.
And if it had been like that, then I swear by He in whose hands lies my soul, Ali(r.a) would have fought tooth and nail, because Ali was known as THE LION OF ALLAH and Allah's Lions never turn their face from His command.
brothers why don't we stop accusing each other and start searching the truth ?
I guess this is the biggest weakness of today's Islamic World, otherwise Islam is a perfect and will remain perfect till the end of this world.
reference URL,
www.al-islam.org/nahjul-balagha-part-1-sermons/sermon-205-both-you-frown-over-small-matter…
Alternative Sources for Sermon 205
(1) Abu Ja`far al-'Iskafi, Naqd al-`Uthmaniyyah; see Ibn Abi al-Hadid, Sharh, II, 173.
brothers I'm not any scholar that i can discuss with any personality,
neither Am I a Sunni or a Shia, rather I'm a muslim as we all ought to be.
ابی ميں طفل ناداں ہوں۔ مقرر ہوں نہ مولانا۔
تمنا دل میں گونجتی ہے سناؤں حق کا فرمانا۔
Brother Abdullah, there are always three faces,
Your's Our's and the Truth.
so brother we need to search for the truth.
hope your highness understands me, and if I've mistaken at any point hope I'll be forgiven.
and may Almighty guide us all to the right path Aameen. !
Sermon 91 - Leave me and find someone else ...
When people decided to Swear allegiance at Amir AL-minimum's hand after the murder of `Uthman, he said:
Leave me and seek some one else. We are facing a matter which has (several) faces and colours, which neither hearts can stand nor intelligence can accept. Clouds are hovering over the sky, and faces are not discernible. You should know that if I respond to you I would lead you as I know and would not care about whatever one may say or abuse. If you leave me then I am the same as you are. It is possible I would listen to and obey whomever you make in charge of your affairs. I am better for you as a counselor than as chief.
If Ali (r.a) were chosen by Almighty Allah, they would have never turned face away rather have approached willingly ans as son as possible.
Abu Bakr (r.a) was chosen cause Prophet (pbuh) had already told them to lead Muslims in their Obligatory prayers and even offered besides them, still they were asked to swear allegiance from all Muslims.
Brother Abdullah, there are always three faces,
Your's Our's and the Truth.
so brother we need to search for the truth rather than saying I'll do whatever my parents used to do or what my forefathers used to do, because it is the tradition of Kuffaar and we are the Ummah of Prophet so we can't say anything like that, rather we have to search for truth and understand whether it is in our favour or not !
May Almighty guide us all to the right path Aameen. !
Dear Malik Zahid,
Salamun Alaikum,
I read the above comments posted by you. I thank you for accepted my suggestion to have the discussion here.
Brother, I observe that you have completed neglected the importance of the announcement of Successorship of Imam Ali(AS) at Ghadeer e Khum. I ask you for the sake of Allah if that announcement was not above the Divine Caliphate which Holy Prophet(SAWA) had done on the order of Allah, then why did Prophet(SAWA) took so much pain and made such a large arrangement to do the same ?? And why Companions(including Umar) Congratulated Imam Ali(AS) after the event.
Apart from the clear and formal announcement at Ghadir e Khum , the Prophet (P) throughout his ministry treated Ali as his Wali al-Ahd (successor) and Caliph.
( Ref : Shah wall Allah: "Izalat al-Khafa'" (Urdu translation), p. 276.)
The following facts in particular deserve consideration in this connection:
1. So as to bring up and educate Ali under his very eyes, the Prophet (P) took him from his parents.
2. He married his own daughter to Ali, that daughter most dear to him.
3. The Prophet held secret and confidential talks with Imam Ali, which excited the envy of others.
4. The Prophet never placed Imam Ali under the subjection of any leader of an expedition, whereas other companions of note, such as Abu Bakr and 'Umar, were often placed under the subordination of others.
5. He associated Imam Ali with himself in his own mission to the exclusion of everyone else, for example (a) in clearing the Kaaba of its idols, which was the chief object of his mission, and (b) in the dispute with the Christians of Najran; when the truth of the assertions of each party was to be tested by means of a challenge to prayers, the Prophet took Ali, his sons and his wife and associated them with his prayers.
6. While fostering brotherhood among his companions, the Prophet considered Ali's position much too high to be made the brother of an ordinary person, and he therefore made him own brother.
7. The houses were built so as to open into the mosque. The Prophet considering the frequent coming and going of all sorts of people through the mosque, which was turning it into a thoroughfare to be derogatory to a place of worship ordered the doors of the houses opening into it to be closed, but his own house and that of Ali were exempted from this order. This was a distinction which all of them envied.
8. He appointed Imam Ali to announce to the gathering at the Kaaba the first forty verses of the Sura of At-Tawba containing his future policy towards the Quraish and other pagan tribes . . declaring at the same time that this was a duty which no-one except himself or Ali could discharge. In his conversations and public lectures, the Prophet told his followers repeatedly that Ali had all those qualities and qualifications necessary in a successor of the Prophet(P).
Describing the events that followed the death of the Prophet, Sayyid Amir Ali says "And now arose the question as to who was to succeed in the government of the commonwealth. Muhammad had often indicated Ali as his successor, but had laid down 'no definite rules. This gave scope to individual ambitions to the detriment of Islam, and in later times became the fruitful cause of dynastic wars and religious schisms. Had Ali been accepted to the Headship of Islam, the birth of those disastrous pretensions that led to so much bloodshed in the Muslim world would have been averted.( Ref : Amir Ali: "Short History of the Saracens", Chptr 4, p. 21.)
This writing from the pen of a very prominent member of the community with which the Non-appointment Theory is an article of faith is very useful for our purposes, and conclusively establishes what I have to say on this subject. I need not mind the feeble attempt which he has made to lay the blame at the door of the Prophet when he says that the Prophet made no definite rules regarding his successor; the attempt lacks soul and has not succeeded. Definite rules for what? The Prophet's duty ended with his indication that Imam Ali was to succeed him; this indication was as much in the nature of a rule as a nomination, and was quite definite. For our purposes it is quite enough to know that the Prophet (P) nominated Imam Ali as his successor but the individual ambitions and disastrous pretensions of those who contrived to install themselves in power contrary to the indications and wishes of the Prophet prevented him from taking his legitimate position. These ambitions were detrimental to the interests of Islam and were the root cause of all the future ills that beset Islam in the long course of its history.
One fact which cuts to the root of the Theory of Non-appointment is that its advocates are unable to find any sensible explanation' or show any reasonable grounds for why the Prophet (P) should have adopted this attitude of "non-cooperation", so to speak, towards this very important problem of the Caliphate.
Without this explanation, no intelligible history of the Caliphate can be written. In fact, a true conception and thorough understanding of the History of Islam and the Muslim peoples is absolutely impossible without a correct answer to this very essential question. The entire course of Islamic History, for good or for bad was shaped by the way in which this problem was handled after the death of the Prophet (P).
The innumerable wars and massacres which throughout the long period of Islamic rule almost continuously drenched the Muslim world with blood and eventually brought it to a sad close, and the sighs and sorrows of countless Muslim widows and orphans that saddened the heart of man and brought the wrath of God upon erring humanity, can be traced directly, with not a single "missing link", to the wrong and sinful manner in which this problem was approached on the death of the Prophet (P). I say sinful, because it implied a cotumacious disregard of the orders and wishes of the Prophet (P), implicit obedience to which had been enjoined by the Qur'an, On account of this, Islamic History became a long tragedy of errors, from the horrible massacre of Karbala' to the more recent times of Aurangzeb whom a misguided zeal to serve his religion induced to invade the Shia States of Deccan, and thus clear the way right up to Delhi for the pagan Marahattas. How the succession to the State acquired by Muhammad was to be regulated was the question.
They rejected the principle of selection or nomination as not having been ordered by the Prophet (P); but at the same time they could not formulate any rules of their own. Sometimes the nomination of one man, sometimes the nomination of six candidates, out of whom the candidates themselves were to select one man -a queer method of succession- bur no definite rule was fixed.
The organizers of the opposition to' the Prophet were afraid of an open and free election; "Umar said publicly that the manner in which Abu Bakr was elected to the Caliphate was a calamity from Whose evil effects God saved the Muslims; he ordered that no,one in future should attempt that method, and in the event that anyone did, both he and his candidate Would he beheaded. 1
1. Al-Bukhari: Bab "Rajm-Al-Hubla min az-zina Idha Absanat";
At'Tabari: Vol. 3, pg. 200;
Ibn Althir: 'Tarikh-Al-Kamil", Vol. 2, p, 124;
Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal: "Musnad", Vol. 1, p. 55;
Ibn Hajar Al-Makki:-"As-Sawa'iq", Chptr 1. Fasl 1pg. 5;
Mohib At-Tabari': "Al-Riyad-At-Nadra", Part 2, Fasl 3, p. 164;
Ibn Hisham: "Sirat-Al-Nabi:", Vol. 4', p. 338;
.
Ibn-Kathir Al-Shami; "Tarikh", Vol. 5, p. 245.
Dear Brother Malik Zahid ,
Now coming to your question :
If Ali(AS) was really appointed by Prophet (SAWA) he would have never said : " Leave me and select someone else" . And " I have no liking for Caliphate " And "you people invited me" etc etc.
Brother , you have missed an important point in the sermons in which Imam(AS) had used this statements in Nahjul Balagha.
Imam(AS) said these statements when people came to him after the murder of Usman and forced him to accept the Caliphate. The reason Ali (AS) denied to accept the Caliphate was that people have completed changed the meaning of Caliphate in these 25 years. It was the not the Caliphate of Allah which Allah and Prophet(SAWA) had bestowed him in Ghadir e Khum. It was the worldly Caliphate in which the Caliph had to follow the people as those very people have selected him and made him the Caliph. Ali(AS) in the same sermon quoted by you have said it clearly that if he becomes Caliph he will follow the Quran and Sunnah and will not accept people advices and in that situations people with different ambitions are bound to oppose him.
Brother Malik Zahid,
To summarise the whole event in which Ali(AS) was offfered this worldly Caliphate( government) please read the following and judge it yourself.
When with the murder of `Uthman the seat of Caliphate became vacant, Muslims began to look at `Ali (p.b.u.h.) whose peaceful conduct, adherence to principles, and politia lacumen had been witnessed by them to a great extent during this long period. Consequently, they rushed for swearing allegiance in the same way as a traveller who had lost his way and catches sight of the objective would have rushed towards it, as the historian at-Tabari (in at-Tarikh, vol .I, pp. 3066, 3067, 3076) records:
People thronged on Amir al-mu'minin and said, "We want to swear allegiance to you and you see what troubles are befalling Islam and how we are being tried about the near ones of the Prophet."
But Amir al-mu'minin declined to accede to their request whereupon these people raised a hue and cry and began to shout loudly, "O' Abu'l-Hasan, do you not witness the ruination of Islam or see the advancing flood of unruliness and mischief? Do you have no fear of Allah?" Even then Amir al-mu'minin showed no readiness to consent because he was noticing that the effects of the atmosphere that had come into being after the Prophet had overcome hearts and minds of the people, selfishness and lust for power had become rooted in them, their thinking affected by materialism and they had become habituated to treating government as the means for securing their ends. Now they would like to materialise the Divine Caliphate too and play with it. In these circumstances it would be impossible to change the mentalities or turn the direction of temperaments. In addition to these ideas he had also seen the end in view that these people should get further time to think over so that on frustration of their material ends hereafter they should not say that the allegiance had been sworn by them under a temporary expediency and that thought had not been given to it, just as `Umar's idea was about the first Caliphate, which appears from his statement that:
Abu Bakr's Caliphate came into being without thought but Allah saved us from its mischief. If anyone repeats such an affair you should kill him. (as-Sahih, al-Bukhari, vol 8, pp.210, 211; al-Musnad, Ahmad ibn Hanbal, vol.1, p.55; at-Tabari, vol.1, p.l822; Ibn al-Athir, vol.2, p.327; Ibn Hisham, vol.4, pp.308-309; Ibn Kathir, vol.5, p.246)
In short, when their insistence increased beyond limits, Amir al-mu'minin delivered this sermon wherein he clarified that "If you want me for your worldly ends, then I am not ready to serve as your instrument. Leave me and select someone else who may fulfil your ends. You have seen my past life that I am not prepared to follow anything except the Qur'an and sunnah and would not give up this principle for securing power. If you select someone else I would pay regard to the laws of the state and the constitution as a peaceful citizen should do. I have not at any stage tried to disrupt the collective existence of the Muslims by inciting revolt. The same will happen now. Rather, just as keeping the common good in view I have hitherto been giving correct advice, I would not grudge doing the same. If you let me in the same position it would be better for your worldly ends, because in that case I won't have power in my hands so that I could stand in the way of your worldly affairs, and create an impediment against your hearts' wishes. However, if you are determined on swearing allegiance on my hand, bear in mind that if you frown or speak against me I would force you to tread on the path of right, and in the matter of the right I would not care for anyone. If you want to swear allegiance even at this, you can satisfy your wish." The impression Amir al-mu'minin had formed about these people is fully corroborated by later events. Consequently, when those who had sworn allegiance with worldly motives did not succeed in their objectives they broke away and rose against his government with baseless allegations.
Reasons : Why Imam Ali remain Quiet and did not fight for his rights
Amir al-mu'minin's quietness at this stage was indicative of his high policy and far-sightedness, because if in those circumstances Medina had become the centre of war its fire would have engulfed the whole of Arabia in its flames. The discord and scuffle that had already begun among muhajirun (those who came from Mecca) and ansar (the locals of Medina) would have increased to maximum, the wire-pullings of the hypocrites would have had full play, and Islam's ship would have been caught in such a whirlpool that its balancing would have been difficult; Amir al-mu'minin suffered trouble and tribulations but did not raise his hands.
History is witness that during his life at Mecca the Prophet suffered all sorts of troubles but he was not prepared to clash or struggle by abandoning patience and endurance, because he realised that if war took place at that stage the way for Islam's growth and fruition would be closed. Of course, when he had collected supporters and helpers enough to suppress the flood of unbelief and curb the disturbances, he rose to face the enemy. Similarly, Amir al-mu'minin, treating the life of the Prophet as a torch for his guidance refrained from exhibiting the power of his arm because he was realising that rising against the enemy without helpers and supporters would become a source of revolt and defeat instead of success and victory.
Therefore, on this occasion Amir al-mu'minin has likened the desire for Caliphate to turbid water or a morsel suffocating the throat. Thus, even where people had forcibly snatched this morsel and wanted to swallow it by forcible thrusting, it became stuck in their throat. They could neither swallow it nor vomit it out. That is, they could neither manage it as is apparent from the blunders they committed in connection with Islamic injunctions, nor were they ready to cast off the knot from their neck.
He reiterated the same ideas in different words thus: "If had I attempted to pluck the unripe fruit of Caliphate then by this the orchard would have been desolated and I too would have achieved nothing, like these people who cultivate on other's land but can neither guard it, nor water it at proper time, nor reap any crop from it. The position of these people is that if I ask them to vacate it so that the owner should cultivate it himself and protect it, they say how greedy I am, while if I keep quiet they think I am afraid of death.
(Ref : Nehjul Balagha, Sermon 5 )
They should tell me on what occasion did I ever feel afraid, or flew from battle-field for life, whereas every small or big encounter is proof of my bravery and a witness to my daring and courage. He who plays with swords and strikes against hillocks is not afraid of death. I am so familiar with death that even an infant is not so familiar with the breast of its mother. Hark! The reason for my silence is the knowledge that the Prophet has put in my bosom. If I divulge it you would get perplexed and bewildered. Let some days pass and you would know the reason of my inaction, and perceive with your own eyes what sorts of people would appear on this scene under the name of Islam, and what destruction they would bring about. My silence is because this would happen, otherwise it is not silence without reason."
Dear Brother Malik Zahid,
You said : Abu Bakr (r.a) was chosen cause Prophet (pbuh) had already told them to lead Muslims in their Obligatory prayers and even offered besides them, still they were asked to swear allegiance from all Muslims.
Our Reply :
If the story of Abu Bakr leading the Prayer is true then also it did not qualify him to be the successor of Prophet(SAWA).
We read in Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 89, Number 287:
Narrated Ibn ‘Umar:
Salim, the freed salve of Abu Hudhaifa used to lead in prayer the early Muhajirin (emigrants) and the companions of the Prophet in the Quba mosque. Among those (who used to pray behind him) were Abu Bakr, ‘Umar, Abu Salama, and Amir bin Rabi’a.
Now, if one applies this logic, namely offering Salat behind a person evidences that individuals right to be Khalifa, then Salim had the right to be the first Khalifa at the hem of the state following the death of the Prophet (s).
If praying behind a person is proof of Khilafath, then the Ahl’ul Sunnah should know that Umar throughout his Khilafath offered Salat behind Ubayy bin Kab but he never even short listed him for Khilafath by placing him on the six-men Shura committee set up to appoint a successor.
It is strange that sunni brothers are trying to argue that praying behind Abu Bakar meant that Ali bin Abi Talib (as) held Abu Bakar in high esteem when the very jurisprudence that they ascribe to, has no qualms with an individual praying behind a sinner.
Mulla Ali Qari states:
“It is permissible to offer prayers behind a pious person or a sinner”
Sharah Fiqh Akbar, page 416
do we need anything further on the matter?
I request brother Malik Zahid to continue the discussion and point out to us if any flaws remain in our replies to his questions.
May Allah kept us on the path of those on whom Allah has bestowed His blessing and not of those whom Allah has astrayed ( Surah Fateha )
peace be upon u my brother,
ur first argument is that Ali(r.a) was brought up under the guidance of Prophet Muhammad(pbuh), but we should not forget He(r.a) was first Among children to accept Islam and were the cousin of Prophet Muhammad(pbuh).
The second argument Marriage with Daughter, so it is noteworthy that Usman(r.a) married two daughters.
The third argument is held talks with Ali(r.a), so were held with Abu Bakr(r.a) as well.
The FOURTH ARGUMENT will lead to clear all the doubts About leadership.
this incident took place in 9th Hijri of Islamic calender after the battle of Tabook,when Prophet were busy in Madina as people were joining hands with Islam without any break, so Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) choosed Abu Bakr(r.a) as the leader of Muslims to lead them in Hajj and when these verses mentioned by you Brother Abdullah were brought down upon Prophet(pbuh) so it was necessary to deliver them to those who were on Hajj at that time, so Prophet(pbuh) sent Ali(r.a) to deliver those verses to the people, and when they met Abu Bakr(r.a), and were asked whether Ali(r.a) came as Leader or follower, so Ali(r.a) replied that Abu Bakr(r.a), you are the leader while I'm within your limits,and was sent to read out these verses, and after that Ali(r.a) returned back and Abu Bakr(r.a) completed the other rituals of Hajj as the Leader.
and remains the fact about Najraan, about whom Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) said that if those few people had accepted Islam, till the dawn of Judgement day there would have been no Christian on this earth from that day,and Prophet(pbuh) called up Ali(r.a), Fatima(r.a) and two sons of Ali(r.a), coz all of them were the family of Muhammad(pbuh).
And my brother Islam doesn't give status on behalf of relations, in Islam everyone is treated equal and are given preference in accordance with their deeds.
After this remains the Mission to abolish Idol worship, so let me remind u my brother everyone of Prophet's companion was equally responsible to cmplete the mission,
Like Khalid Ibn Walid(r.a) wre sent along with thirty other men to bring down the Idol of Aza,
Umro Bin Aas(r.a) were sent to bring down the Idol of Sawah,
so all the companions were likewise involved in helping to complete the mission of Prophet(pbuh) by the sake of Almighty.
at the time of Hajja tul Vidah, the Prophet delivered the Sermon as Islam was made complete by Almighty Allah, and on hearing this Abu Bakr(r.a) cries full of his tears a because they had understood that it was now time for Prophet to leave this world to the other world.
at this tie Ali(r.a) were not present there, as they were sent to Yemen to educate people about the essence of Islam and ill effects of Idol worship.
and on their return the companions of Ali(r.a) complained to Prophet(pbuh) about Ali(r.a), as they were only because of the misunderstanding of the people of Yemen, and thus to clear those misunderstandings about Ali(r.a) Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) at the place of Gadhir Khum first praise Almighty Allah and then referred towards Ali(r.a) that The one who is My friend is a friend of Ali and the one who Is the Enemy of Ali(r.a) is My enemy.
So my brother Umar(r.a) congratulated Ali for becoming the friend of whole Ummah and said that from now you are my best among all.
26 Safar, 11 Hijri,Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) were on the ill and on hearing about the border conditions of Sham and Palestine, Prophet(pbuh) ordered to get prepared to fight against the Romans,and the Flag of Islam was given in the hands of (Usama bin Zaid bin Haris)(r.a), and all the Companions including Abu Bakr(r.a), Abbass(r.a), Usman(r.a) and Ali(r.a) were sent under the leadership of Usama(r.a), and later when the condition of prophet(pbuh) was becoming weak day by day, on permission from Usama(r.a), Ali(r.a) and Abbass(r.a) were permitted to stay with Prophet to care of them.
when the condition of Prophet was not getting better day by day, they asked Abu Bakr(r.a) to lead the prayers on which Aisha(r.a) interfered that ask Umar(r.a) to lead Muslims in prayers, but Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) insisted that Abu Bakr(r.a) will lead.
with reference to Bukhari and Muslim, Prophet (pbuh) asked Aisha(r.a) to call her father and brother so that I'll write down Caliphate in his favour, on which Aisha(r.a) replied that Muslims will not choose anybody else.
And one the next occasion the Holy Prophet(pbuh) asked for pen and a page.On this Umar(r.a) said that, Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) need not harm to themselves,and Quran is enough for us as You(pbuh) told.Prophet(pbuh) were in severe pain at that time,While some other companions said, that we shall gain attention of Prophet(pbuh) and ask them what They want to say ?
As Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) were in severe pain and were not able to bear the talks of anyone, so they ordered everyone to leave.
And after sometime when Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) got some relief, called up evrerybody to come inside and said,
Whenever the people from any tribe will come to accept Islam, do return them with humble hospitality and rewards,
Try to evade all the non muslims from the island of Arabia,
Be humble with Ansar and forgive their mistakes,
Don't consider anybody higher that Abu Bakr(r.a) in comparison to your deeds,
And after that the severeness of pain increased and Muhammad(pbuh) felt unconscious.
And my brother Caliphate simply means the Ruler, and nothing else.
as Almighty says in Qur'an at different places, viz,
when Qur'an speaks about Adam(a.s), it says Almighty had sent Adam(a.s) as calipah on the earth. انّى جاعل فى الارض خليفة
the reason behind not declaring the successor is that The Holy Prophet(pbuh) knew that, after them Almighty whom wishes will make the Caliph of Muslims, and Almighty arranges that everything raises every condition for the one whom He wishes to make Caliph.
Brother if we now say that Abu Bakr(r.a) ought not had became the Caliph, rather Ali(r.a) must had became, then we a committing a big sin, Then we say that Allah didn't succeed (may Almighty save us) in making Caliph to one whom He wanted to make, and Almighty is the best planner of all.
Once again I remind you my brother that if we say Abu Bakr(r.a) became Caliph against Allah's will then we are wrong,and then we are saying like that Allah the Most powerful got defeated before human plannings,(may Almighty save us from this sin) which is a dead impossible thing.
Brother Abdullah, I already told you Islam is One and we must be One,
We are talking about those companions of Holy Prophet who were given the glad tidings of heaven in this world, and among them come the four Caliphs, viz, Abu Bakr(r.a), Umar(r.a), Usman(r.a) and Ali(r.a).
SO brother instead of applying our own logic and blaming these pious companions, is like that we are spitting towards sky and rest we know where we will get hit, obviously we will get our own spit back on our own face. So brother i request you to stop blaming any of the companions of Holy Prophet(pbuh) and get attached to the path they have laid for us on the teachings of Prophet(pbuh).
May Almighty guide us to the right path Aameen !
Hope you will understand my brother.
Br Malik Zahid,
I think this will solve all your confusion about superiority of Imam Ali(AS) over others :
"Ali, the son of Abu Talib and the cousin of the Prophet was born on Friday, the 13th Rajab in the 28th year of A'am al-fil (the year of elephants) or 600 A.D. inside Kaba in Mecca. He was brought up under the subtle care and affection of the Prophet. Ali himself cherished the memory of his childhood by saying: "The Prophet brought me up in his own arms and fed me with his own morsel. I followed him, wherever he went, like a baby-camel which follows its mother. Each day a new aspect of his character would beam out of his noble person and I would accept it and follow it as commanded."
Ahmad bin Hanbal writes that, "There are not as many verses and traditions in the praise of any other companion of the Prophet as there are in the praise of Ali bin Abu Talib." Ibn Abbas says that, "There have not descended as many verses about anybody as have revealed about Ali." On another occasion Ibn Abbas narrates, "Three hundred verses of the Koran have been revealed in favour of Ali." Abdullah bin Ayyash bin Abu Rabiah says, "Ali's knowledge and insight were perfect and he was the first to embrace Islam and he has the honour of being the son-in-law of the Messenger of God. He alone had perfect ability to understand the traditions. He was very brave in fighting and very generous in charity." "The Muslim scholars unanimously concur with the fact," says Ahmad bin Hanbal in his Masnad, "that not one of the companions of the Prophet was ever praised by God and His Prophet for his virtues and estimation as was Ali." On one occasion when four of the Muslims complained to the Prophet concerning something that Ali had done, the Prophet was displeased and said, "What do you want from Ali? Ali is from me and I am from Ali. He is the guardian of every believer after me." (Tirmizi, 2:298) On another occasion, the Prophet is reported to have said, "Ali is my brother, my executor and my successor. You obey him" (Tabari, 2:63).
Regarding the first man to profess faith in the prophetic mission, Ibn Hisham (1:245), Tabari (2:56) etc. write that Ali bin Abu Talib was the first male to accept Islam. While Nuruddin Ali bin Ibrahim Shafayee writes in Sirat-i Halabiya that, "Ali was like a son unto the Prophet, therefore, his faith from very start was the faith professed by the Prophet." Masudi (d. 346/958) writes in his Muruj adh-Dhahab (2:283) that, "The general conscientious of opinion amongst the Muslim historians and theologians is that Ali was never a non-Muslim or prayed before idols, therefore, the question of his embracing Islam does not and cannot arise."
Dear Zahid Malik,
Wa alaikum Assalaam,
Thank you for continuing the discussion on this post.
Brother,
I read all your comments and found that you have replied to my comments in a hurry and you have not observed some of the most important passing remarks in my comments.
First to begin with, I argued in my first comment which I addressed to you regard the Non Appointed Theory.
You didnt reply to my objections as to why Prophet(SAWA) whose mission was to remain till Qayamat did not appoint any successor after him ???
Prophet(SAWA) who has instructed each and every minute information about how to lead a good life remain quiet on this important matter ???
What was the reason for the Prophet(SAWA) to remain quiet on the matter of Caliphate ??
If the matter was for the Ummah( muslims) to decide, Did the Prophet(SAWA) laid any guidelines for the selection of a Caliph???
Simply ordering anyone to lead the Prayer ( as said by you ) is not a sufficient qualification to become a successor becoz as I pointed to you a tradition from Bukhari in which many great Sahaba prayed behind Salim and as per sunni jurisprudence anybody can lead a Prayer, even a sinful person.
If Prophet(SAWA) wanted People to elect A Caliph, then Why Umar and Abu Bakr ran to Saqifa to elect the new Caliph leaving the body of Prophet(SAWA) unburied.???
Why did they not wait till the burial of Prophet(SAWA) ??
Why the consent of those who were present in the Mosque not taken at the time of electing the Caliph.??
Why the consent of Ali(AS) taken by force ??
If Prophet(SAWA) did not have any say in the matter of Caliph and Caliph has to be elected by the People then Why Umar was nominated directly by Abu Bakr through a will ??
why people were not given the opportunity to elect the Caliph after Abu Bakr ???
Dear Brothers at least we have some ayats and correct traditions found in both shias and sunni book to prove the Caliphate of Ali by the order of Allah and the Prophet(SAWA) but where is the proof to prove that Abu Bakr was the rightly Caliph of the Prophet(SAWA) as he was appointed neither by Allah nor by the Prophet(SAWA) and not even by a fair election. He was elected Caliph in a most huried manner in which some ansars and muhajireen fought at saqifa and ultimately Abu Bakr was elected on the basis of his relationship with the Prophet(SAWA) and most of the muslims including Ali were busy at the Mosque for the burial of Prophet(SAWA) !!!!
Do you have any answers to some of these serious issues in Islam ???
I will also answer your other objections, Inshallah
Brother Zahid Malik,
You have asked many diverse questions without answering some of the important matter posted by me in my previous comments.
In order to keep the discussion meaningful and to the point I will inshallah answer all your doubts in details in the coming days.
In the meantime I would request you to answer the questions raised by me in my previous comment.
May Allah guide everyone to the right path
Dear Brother Zahid Malik,
Assalaam Alaikum,
As it is clear from your arguments and comments that you have relied heavily upon those traditions quoted and fabricated by the opponents of Ahlul Bayt of the Prophet(SAWA), I would advise you to confine your discussion only upon those correct traditions of Holy Prophet(SAWA) which is accepted by both school of thoughts, Shias and Sunnis.
The reason behind this is if you quote traditions from your sources to prove your point it would be unacceptable to us and similarly if we quote traditions from our shia sources you are bound to reject it.
So to start our discussion with the condition that we will follow this rule in all our future conversation so that discussion should reach to some meaningful end, I would start with a reply to your objection : "Islam doesn't give status on behalf of relations"
Yes Islam does not give status on behalf of relations BUT ALHULBAYT of Prophet (SAWA) is an exception to this general rule AS PER THE CORRECT TRADITIONS OF HOLY PROPHET(sawa).
To Prove my point, I am narrating some of the traditions found in sunni books which proves beyond doubt that obedience to AhlulBayt of the Prophet(SAWA) in compulsory for all the muslims and as well as for all the Companions and Tabe'in of the Prophet(SAWA).
"O people! I am leaving with you the Book of Allah and my household (‘itra), my family (my Ahl alBayt). As long as you uphold them, you shall never go astray."
( Ref : Kanzul‘Ummal, Vol. 1, page 44)
"I have left with you that which, as long as you uphold, you shall never let you stray after me: Allah's Book, a Rope extending from heavens to earth, and my ‘itra, my Ahl alBayt. These twain shall never separate from one another till they reach me by the Pool; therefore, see how you succeed me in faring with them."
( Ref : Al-Tirmithi quotes it from Zayd ibn Arqam. It is hadith 874 of the ahadith quoted in, on p. 44, Vol. 1, of Kanz al-’Ummal. )
"I am leaving among you two successors: the Book of Allah, a rope extending from heavens to earth - or between heavens and earth - , and my household (‘itra) from my family (Ahl alBayt); they shall never separate from each other until they reach me by the Pool.
( Ref : Imam Ahmad includes it among the ahadith narrated by Zayd ibn Thabit from two sources one of which is stated at the beginning of page 182, and the other at the conclusion of page 189, Vol. 5, and also by Ibn Abu Shaybah, Abu Ya’li, and Ibn Sa’d, from Abu Sa’id. It is hadith 945 on p. 47, Vol. 1, of Kanz al-’Ummal.)
......more traditions in the next comment
Holy Prophet (SAWA) said :
"I am going to be called upon and shall answer the call, and I am leaving among you the Two Weighty Things, the Book of Allah Almighty and my offspring, my Ahl alBayt. The Sublime and omniScient has informed me that they shall never part from each other till they reach me by the Pool; so, see how you succeed me in faring with them."
( Ref : Included by Imam Ahmad in the hadith narrated by Abu Sa’id al-Khudri from two sources one of which is mentioned on page 17, and the other at the end of page 26, Vol. 3, of Al-Musnad. It is also quoted by Ibn Abu Shaybah, Abu Ya’li, and Ibn Sa’d from Abu Sa’id. It is hadith 945 as listed in page 47, Vol. 1, of Kanz al-’Ummal.)
Having returned from the Farewell Pilgrimage, he, peace be upon him and his progeny, camped at Ghadir Khumm and ordered the area underneath a few huge trees to be swept clean then said in his sermon:
"It seems as if I am going to be called upon and shall answer the call, and I am leaving with you the Two Weighty Things, one of which is greater than the other: the Book of Allah Almighty, and my Household; so, see how you succeed me in faring with them, for they shall never separate from each other until they reach me at the Pool."
Then he (pbuh) added:
"Allah, the Exalted and the Sublime, is my Master, and I am the master of every believer." Having said so, he took ‘Ali's hand and said: "To whomsoever I have been a master, this ‘Ali is his master. O Allah! Befriend whosoever befriends ‘Ali, and be the enemy of whosoever opposes him, etc."
( Ref : It is sequentially quoted by al-Hakim from Zayd ibn Arqam on page 109, Vol. 3, of Al-Mustadrak. The author adds: "This hadith is authentic according to both Shaykhs who did not narrate it in its entirety." He quotes it from another source from Zayd ibn Arqam on page 533, Vol. 3, of his Al-Mustadrak, adding: "This hadith is narrated by reliable narrators, yet they (both Shaykhs) did not publish it themselves." Al-Thahbi has included it in his Talkhis, admitting its authenticity.)
‘Abdullah ibn Hantab has said: "The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) delivered a sermon to us at Al-Juhfa wherein he asked us: 'Don't I have authority over your own selves more than you yourselves do?' Attendants there answered: 'Yes, indeed, O Messenger of Allah!' Then he said: 'I shall then question you about these two: the Qur'an and my ‘itra.'"
( Ref : Al-Tabrani has included it, as referred to in Nabhani's Al-Arba’in, and in Sayyti's Ihya'ul Mayyit. You are aware of the fact that his khutba, peace be upon him and his progeny, was not confined to this much, for nobody who narrates just this much can claim that he had heard it. But politics tied many tongues of traditionists and chained the pens of many writers. In spite of all this, such a drop of the ocean suffices; praise be to Allah.)
The sahih books which deem it mandatory to follow the Two Weighty Things are successive through more than twenty companions who all are in consensus in this regard. The Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him and his progeny, has emphasized these things on numerous occasions: on Ghadir Khumm's Day, on the ‘Arafat day of his Farewell Pilgrimage, after leaving Taif, from his pulpit in Medina, and inside his blessed chamber during his sickness, when the room was full of his companions.
He said in the latter incident: "O people! I feel I am going to die very soon, and I had previously informed you as my duty, and to leave no excuse for you, that: I am leaving with you the Book of Allah, the Glorious and Mighty, and my ‘itra, my Ahl alBayt." Having finished, he took ‘Ali's hand and lifted it saying: "This ‘Ali is with the Qur'an, and the Qur'an is with ‘Ali: they shall never separate from one another till they reach me by the Pool."
( Ref : Refer to it at the conclusion of Section 2, Chapter 9, of Al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqa by Ibn Hajar, after the forty ahadith referred to in that Section on page 57.)
The gist of his saying "I am leaving unto you that which, as long as you uphold to it, shall never let you stray: the Book of Allah and my ‘itra" is that anyone who does not uphold both of them spontaneously will eventually stray. This is supported by his saying, peace be upon him and his progeny, in the tradition of the Two Weighty Things, as Tabrani narrates it, "Do not go ahead of them else you should perish, and do not teach them for they are more learned than you."
What makes it compulsory to follow and refer to Ahl alBayt is this hadith of the Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him and his progeny: "The similitude of my household among you is that of the ark of Noah: whoever embarks upon it is saved, and whoever lags behind it is drowned,"
( Ref : Al-Hakim quotes it from Abu Tharr on page 151, Vol. 3, of his Sahih Al-Mustadrak.)
and his statement (pbuh), "The similitude of my Household among you is that of the ark of Noah: whoever boards it is saved, and whoever lags behind it is drowned. And the similitude of my Household among you is the Gate of the Israelites: whoever enters it is forgiven."
(Ref : Al-Tabrani quotes it in his Al-Awsat from Abu Sa’id. It is hadith 18 of the 25th Al-Arba’in [forty] ahadith of Nabhani's Al-Arba’in Al-Arba’in (the sixteen-hundred ahadith), p. 216.)
Ibn Hajar, in the exegesis of Chapter 7 of the Holy Qur'an, in Chapter 11, page 91, of his Al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqa, has accepted it while saying, after quoting these and other similar traditions, "The reason for their similitude to the ark is that whoever loves and highly respects them as means of thanking the One Who gave them honours, following the guidance of their learned men, will be saved from the darkness of dissension, and whoever lags behind it is drowned in the sea of ingratitude and will perish in the paths of tyranny."
Then he adds the following: "As to the Gate of Salvation (meaning thereby their similitude thereto), Allah has made entering that gate, which probably was the gate of Shittim or of Jerusalem, in humility, seeking forgiveness, a reason for salvation, and He (likewise) has made loving Ahl alBayt a reason for this nation's salvation."
The sahih books are consecutive in stating that following Ahl alBayt is mandatory especially quoting the purified ‘itra.
Now, my question to my Brother Zahid is , why did Ummah left the Alhlubayt and followed others in the matter of religion inspite of this clear indication from the Prophet(SAWA) that "anyone who does not uphold both of them spontaneously will eventually stray"
Hope this much would be sufficient for brother Zahid Malik to prove that Ahlul Bayt ( Household) of Prophet(SAWA) were of very high status and are ordered by Allah and the Prophet(SAWA) to be followed.
Dear Br. Zahid Malik,
You have tried to dilute the importance of Ali (AS) being trained by Prophet(SAWA) by saying that "Ali was first among children to accept Islam"
What do u mean by saying Ali accepted Islam ????
Ali(AS) was a born Muslim like Prophet(SAWA). He was brought up under the guidance of Prophet(SAWA) from his early childhood. He never worship idols for a single day.
Are these characteristic found in Abu Bakr and Umar who spent a major period of their life in KUFR.???
Ali (AS) was born in Kaaba through a miracle when the walls of Kaaba spit to make way for the mother of Ali(AS).
You said : " Marriage with Daughter, so it is noteworthy that Usman (r.a) married two daughters"
Marriage of Ali was with the daughter of Prophet(SAWA) who is Fatema(AS) - the chief of the women of the worlds.
Fatema(AS) the beloved daughter of Prophet(SAWA) was the only daughter present when the Prophet(SAWA) died.
It is Fatema for whom Prophet(SAWA) said : Fatema is my Part. The One who hurt her hurt me.
It is Fatema who is the mother of Hasan and Hussain -the chiefs of the youths of Paradise.
It is Fatema who got the title of Umme Abiha ( mother of her father) because of her immense love of his father.
It is Fatema who went along with Prophet(SAWA) in Muhabela against Christians of Najran who truthfulness in mentioned in Quran.
It is Fatema who is mentioned in Surah No 33 Ayat no. 33 as AhlulBayt from whom uncleanliness have been kept away.
Tell me brother for the sake of Allah, Do these fazilat (virtues) exist in any other so called daughters of Prophet(SAWA) ( as per you ) who were married to Usman.
The marriage of daughters of Prophet(SAWA) to Usman is a fabrication by the Ummayyad to assign Usman more fazilat(virtues) in comparision to Ali(AS). There was only one daughter of Prophet(SAWA) - and that daughter was Fatema.
If there were other daughters also. Could you please tell me when they were born, when they died. When did both got married to Usman.???etc etc.
Usman marriage to daughters of Prophet(SAWA) is a later fabrication done in history by Umayyad which does not any base.
It was not Only at Ghadir Khumm that the Messenger of God peace and blessings be upon him and his family proclaimed 'Ali peace be upon him to be the leader of the Muslims and his successor officially and in the presence of the people. In the third year of his mission when he was commanded to proclaim his prophethood openly he appointed 'Ali peace be upon him as his successor.It was in Dawat e Zul Asheera( Invitations of near kins)
The Prophet turned to the assembly and said:
" 'Ali is my brother and legatee and my successor among you. Obey him follow him and pay heed to his words."
( Sunni Ref : Ahmad b. Hanbal al-Musnad Vol. I pp. III 159; Ibn al-Athir al-Kamil Vol. II p.22; al-Tabari al-Tafsir Vol. II p.216; Abu al-Fida' al-Tarikh Vol. I p.119; al-Ganji Kifayat al-Talib p.89; al-Nasa'i al-Khasa'is p.18; al-Halabi al-Sirah Vol. I p.304; Ibn Abi'1-Hadid Sharh Vol. III p.255; al-Suyuti Jam' al-Jawami' Vol. VI p.408; al-Khifaji Sharh al-Shifa' Vol. III p.37.)
Mr. Zahid MAlik,
First you said : Abu Bakr was d candidate for Khilafat becoz he was asked by the Prophet(SAWA) to lead d prayer.
Then you said in another post that Caliphate was worldly rule.
My Question is if it is worldly rule, then why you require d support from d Prophet(SAWA) for d Khilafat.
And if it was really a worldly rule then what about the title of caliph such as Ameer al Momineen and Khalifa of Prophet(SAWA) which clearly indicate the religious colors attached to it.
If Prophet(SAWA) really knew that a worldly Caliphate is going to be establish after him why did he not lay any guidelines for the selection of Khalif in order to avoid bloodshed among the muslims on the matter of Khilafat as it could be seen from the history that people like Yazeed reached the throne of Khilafat and caused a lot of bloodshed of muslims including the killing and slaughtering of the grandson of the Prophet(SAWA) - al Hussain(AS) ??????
Matter of Khilafat was really important and Prophet(SAWA) quietness on this matter cannot be justified !!!!
Thus Shia belief that Prophet(SAWA) indeed had appointed Ali(AS) as Khalif holds more ground and is very logical indeed.
Br Zahid Malik where r u ??
You haven't reply to d questions asked by me in my previous comments
The announcement in Ghadeer was not about friendship with Ali (AS) It was regarding Wilayat and Khilafat of Imam Ali(AS) The bigger proof is the long sermon Prophet(SAWA) delivered before the announcement and his question to muslims : " Whether I have not got more authority over your self than you" Then immediately after that he said : " Of whomsoever I am master this Ali is his master"
If you see the whole preparation by the Prophet(SAWA) before making the important announcement it would become crystal clear that Prophet(SAWA) was to make an important announcement and that is about Khilafat of Ali(AS) and not just friendship
Why Umar congratulated Ali(AS) and said :" Today you have become MAULA of All momineen and Mominaat"
Was Ali (AS) their enemy before the announcement that Ali (AS) became their friend.???
How could you define the friendship of ALI(AS) with Mominaat( women) ????
So dear brother, the announcement was not about friendship of ALI(AS) but about becoming MASTER of all momineen and Momenaat.
Dear brother,
You said :" if we now say that Abu Bakr(r.a) ought not had became the Caliph, rather Ali(r.a) must had became, then we a committing a big sin, Then we say that Allah didn't succeed (may Almighty save us) in making Caliph to one whom He wanted to make, and Almighty is the best planner of all."
Our reply : Allah had made Ali(AS) Caliph on the day of ghadeer if people did not accept him as Caliph its people fault in the same way as many people did not believe in the Prophethood of the Prophet(SAWA) and are still not believing so its their fault.
Allah did not force anybody to accept the Khilafat of Ali(AS) like how he did not force the people to accept the prophethood of Mohammad(SAWA)
So dear Abu Bakr becoming the Caliph is the sin committed by the people and they have to answer for that because ALLAH HAS NOT MADE ANY FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE KHILAFAT OF ABU BAKR IN QURAN AND NEITHER WE FIND ANY TRADITION FROM THE PROPHET(SAWA) REGARDING THE KHILAFAT OF ABU BAKR SO ABU BAKR'S KHILAFAT IS NOT PROVED FROM QURAN AND TRADITIONS
So Abu Bakr becoming the Caliph is a act of the people and not the act of ALLAH.
Tell me YAZEED( lanatullah) became Caliph was the act of the people those who accepted him as Caliph or was it act of ALLAH ??????
Masshallah. Allah aap jaisay logon ko salamat rakhein.#abdullah
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