Umar ibn al-Khattab came to the house of Ali. Talha and Zubair and some of the immigrants were also in the house. Umar cried out: "By God, either you come out to render the oath of allegiance, or I will set the house on fire." al-Zubair came out with his sword drawn. As he stumbled (upon something), the sword fell from his hand so they jumped over him and seized him.
History of al-Tabari, Volume 9 page: 186- 187
Ali and Abbas were sitting inside the house of Fatimah, Abu Bakr told Umar: "Go and bring them; if they refuse, kill them." Umar brought fire to burn the house. Fatimah came near the door and said: "O son of Khattab, have you come to burn our house on me and my children?" Umar replied: "Yes I will, by Allah, until they come out and pay allegiance to the Prophet's Caliph."
Sunni reference:
Iqd al-Fareed, by Ibn Abd Rabb, Part 3, Pg. 63
"When Umar Came To The door of the house of Fatimah, he said: "By Allah, I Shall Burn Down (the house) over you unless you come out and give the Oath of Allegiance (to Abu Bakr)."
Sunni References:
History of Tabari (Arabic), v1, pp 1118-1120
History of Ibn Athir, v2, p325
al-Isti'ab, by Ibn Abd al-Barr, v3, p975
Tarikh al-Kulafa, by Ibn Qutaybah, v1, p20
After all these referrences is there any other proof needed to show that Umar was the bitterest enemy of Ali and Fatima.
Now Sunnis you decide what is important for you.
To be with Ali or Umar!!
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Umar rz ka dushman allah aur aur rasool Allah saw ka dushman hai
I have some doubts when this incedent happened was there some fight between ALI R.A and UMER R.A becouse in the nature of incedent there must be some fight is there any historion mention fight between them.
Second was ALI R.A accept the threat of UMER R.A and give oath to ABU BAKR R.A if yes then this story is fals because ALI R.A was not this kind of person who fear from humen if you say no he did not give him oath then there must be some history and there must be two groups from the begining as there any evidence of two groups in history. Why HASSAN R.A fought against the enimies under UMER.RA caliphate.
Please give me some answer according to this incedent was there some fight between ALI R.A and UMER R.A because the nature of the incedent there should be litle fight is there any historion mention some fight?
Second. After this incedent ALI R.A give oath to ABU BAKR R.A? If yes its mean ALI R.A afraid from UMER R.A but we know this was not nature of ALI R.A but if he did not give oath to ABU BAKR R.A then there must be some solid evidence and there must be two groups from the begining is there any prove for two groups from the begining? Third why ALI R.A held a position of cheif justice in the reign of ABU BAKR ,UMER , AND USMAN R.A.A?
By god ki qasam keya ye sach hai
I can assure you that this incident is true as this is mentioned in various books above alright.
No there was no fight between Imam Ali as and Umer ra this was when Imam Ali as were busy with the last rites of the burial of Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad SAWW when muhajirs and ansari gathered at saqeefa and decided that Hazrat Abu bakr ra to be there first caliph Hazrat Imam Ali was asked to accede this decision. He refused, Allama Shaykh in Madaarej an Nobowwab says that Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad SAWW said to Hazrat Imam Ali as "after me you will have to face extremes of suffering, do not get disheartened and do not lose patience, and when you find people craving for and trying their utmost to secure worldly power and wealth you mould your life to hereafter". Hazrat Imam Ali as loved Islam as the holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad SAWW so for the sake of worldly power He would not endanger it , He knew that disputes among Muslims would give advantage to other tribes. He wanted to save Islam so He just remained silent and refused to accept Abu Bakr Ra.
Once two ladies come to Hazrat Ali as bringing a dispute in which both
claimed to be mother of same child , Hazrat Imam Ali as ordered his companion to cut the boy in two half's and give them both a piece of the child , so one of the lady said i don't want to have the child other lady can keep it , so Hazrat Imam Ali as said that you're the real mother as no mother can Suffer the pain watching her child die.
This my friend is the same case here Hazrat Imam Ali as didn't want Islam to die so for that he remaind silent. So his silence frustrated Umar ra and then the incident happened.
But they still asked Hazrat Imam Ali as advice on many matters and He didn't refused to help
As you know that all Muslim are brothers together then at that time there was only one dispute between BiBi fatima A.S and Hazrat Abu bakr...that was off fadak ....according to shia ...but as you know that she was the wife of ALI R.A and daughter of Hazrat Muhammad(S.A.W)....Fadak and anything is nothing for them against his brother Abu bakar cause the very first thing according to islam is All muslims are brothers together....think by your mind...before that you have to know islam...They are all obeying islam so why the did disputes in brothers and sisters!!!and fadak was charity to islam .....i think that all the reasons i have listening from shia's were not right...
In summary. Umer came to take him to the court to pledge the oath, after burning the door and walkin over the door and Lady Fatima (sa) under it with multiple other people they took Imam Ali (as) tied in rope from neck to the court. Imam Ali (as) never pledged the oath. One riwayat says that a yahoodi saw all of that and accepted islam saying that i seen Ali do unbelievable things and he can easily kill all of them but still seein him stay quiet n patient in all that tells me he is doin it for some1 else which led me to believe in Allah and Islam
as for Fidak is concerned, its clearly mentioned in sunni books as well. I dont know why sunnis refuse to accept it. Fidak was not charity. It was given by Prophet (saww) to Bibi Fatima (sa), it was her right which was not being given to her for which she went to the court. its all mentioned in sunni books. Later it was given to Ahlebait(as) by the 8th bani ummayah Califah. we all must know the status of Bibi Fatima(as) and that she knew about each and everything of Islam better than anyone else. it is also mentioned narrated by Hazrat Aisha in Bukhari that Bibi Fatima(sa) was upset with the two caliphs and did not talk to them till the day she died.
I would suggest you all to read your own books as everything is mentioned in them.
Huzur paak salallahi wa sallam loved his daughter so so much that I cry deep down inside to hear when she used to go and ask him something to eat because of the faka and I cry imagining the Prophets daughter and nothing in the house to eat and today we have so much to eat and can't feel the pain of our Prophets daughter who couldn't receive the sympathy from her father's friends after her father's death.
How come I grew up as a sunni with Iman following the hanafi school of thoughts, and never told about the incidents that happened to our Prophets (saw) daughter and her husband ali (ra) and her children.
The 4 sunni imams and later mullahs of this deen till today never emphasized to teach for others to learn what conspired in the History of Islam.
I will not Curse anybody for the sake of Islam as didn't Hazrat Ali(ra) do too.
Why didn't the Shia spread the Deen of Islam as the Sunni did?
The Truth was never told until the internet came.
Come to FIJI ISLANDS or sponsor youths to engage in Islamic madrasa to spread the AHLE BAYT way of Real Islam.
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