Now, we ask our Sunni brothers why do you follow Innovation of Umar(folding hands in Namaz) instead of Sunnat of Hazrat Mohammad(s.a.w) which is proved from Holy Quran?
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wo kon si ayat ha jis me hath khol k nmaz parhnay ka kaha gya ha, surah noor ki kon c ayat ha wo..? pls tell me
Dear Hafiz Waheed,
Salaam Alaikum,
Pehle to hum bata di ki sirf shia hath khol kar namaz nahi padhte hai balke sunnis me bhi ek firka namaz hath khol kar padhta hai.
Hath kholkar padhne me koi iktelaaf nahi hai magar hath bandh kar namaz padhne me iktelaaf hai.
jaise hath seene par ho ya peth par ho ya naaf par ho.!!
Quran me koi aisi Ayat nahi hai jisse ye sabit ho ke hath bandh kar namaz padhni chahiye.
Quran me kuch aisi Ayate hai jisse ye sabit hota hai ke hath kholkar namaz padhni chahiye.
pehle ayat : Surah Nisa ayat no 102.
اے نبی جب تم مسلمانو ں میں موجود ہو اور انہیں نماز پڑھانے کے لیے کھڑا ہو تو چاہیئے ان میں سے ایک جماعت تیرے ساتھ کھڑی ہو اور اپنے ہتھیار ساتھ لے لیں پھر جب یہ سجدہ کریں تو تیرے پیچھے سے ہٹ جائیں اور دوسری جماعت آئے جس نے نماز نہیں پڑھی وہ تیرے ساتھ نماز پڑھتے اور وہ بھی اپنے بچاؤ اور اپنے ہتھیار ساتھ رکھیں
Hathyar aam taur par talwaar hua karta tha, aur hath bandkar agar talwaar haath me liya jayega to wo dosre namaziyo ko lag sakta hai. is Ayat se ye waze hota hai ke hathyar lekar sirf hath kholkar ki khada hua ja sakta hai.
Doosri Ayat : Surah Aaraf ayat no 29 :
اور ہر نماز کےوقت اپنے منہ سیدھے کرو اور اس کے خالص فرمانبردار ہو کر اسے پکارو جس طرح تمہیں پہلے پیدا کیا ہے اسی طرح دوبارہ پیدا ہو گے
Is Ayat me ye kaha gaya hai ke Namaz me us tara khade hona hai jaise tum duniya me aaye the aur jaise do bara paide kiye jaoge. Janaze ke hath khole hote hai.
Jab Insaan Paida hota h to uske bhi Hath khuly hote hen jab Wafat kar jaata he tab bhi ... Lakin kiya ap ne gaur nahen kiya ke Jab Insaan Paida hota he wo La iLm hota he aur dori baat wo soyaa hota he kharra nahen ? aur jab wafaat kar jaata he to uske Amaal kisi kaam ke nahen hote wo dead hota he uska Link Duniya se khatam hota aur wo us waqat bhi soya hota he Leta hota he ........ Kiya Shia Hzraat So ke Namaaz parhte hen kiya Asmaan ki taraf mun karke ?
Janab Anonymous,
Shia Na So ke Namaz Parhte Hai Na Aasman ki taraf mun Karke!!!
Shia to Sirf Us tarah se Namaz Padhte Hai Jaise Rasool(SAWA) aur Aal e Rasool ko Padhte hue Dekha hai.Aur jo tarika hume Quran aur Sahih Haditho se Maloom Padha.
Sahih Muslim Book 4 Hadith 792:
Wa'il b. Hujr reported: He saw the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) raising his hands at the time of beginning the prayer and reciting takbir, and according to Hammam (the narrator), the hands were lifted opposite to ears. He (the Holy Prophet) then wrapped his hands in his cloth and placed his right hand over his left hand. And when he was about to bow down, he brought out his hands from the cloth, and then lifted them, and then recited takbir and bowed down, and when (he came back to the erect position) he recited: "Allah listened to him who praised Him." And when prostrates, he prostrated between the two palms.
Dear Brother Anonymous who brought the Hadith from Sahih Muslim Book 4 Hadith 792.
My Reply to you :
If this was really very important and this was the Sunnah of Prophet (s.a.w.s.) then why is that most of the Ahadeeth in this regard does not mention the folding of hands. I just Searched SUNNAH.COM with these keywords "salah open hands" (without Quotes) and found amazing results. There is no mention of Folding Hands except in some traditions. Majority of Traditions does not point towards this act. Please enlighten me.... thank you.
Can someone please give me a proof that prophet Muhammad pbuh offered prayers with open arms ?
Yes See Namaz of Abdullah Ibn Zubair.Open handed
We are all followers of Allah and so are his messengers we follow the quran just like his messengers did. If the holy quran is saying pray with your hands open then don't you think the prophet nabi Muhammad saw obeyed that!! Why are you not?
Aint it funny A hadees been quoted by wail bin hujar and then comes another narrator and even he says' prophet sawaw placed his Hands under apiece of cloth wrapped in cloth ' which xrays showed the second narrator from behind under the clth that hands were placed on one another ,right over the left.'' khudara hosh karein deen k saath khilwar apne saath khilwaar hai
Ur question is like proove prophet sawaw did not pray with his hand above head... dear first see what all muslims say.. they see what different sects says they see what is similar in different sects and why and finally what is different and why. Imam Ali a.s was not selected as third caliph because he rejected sunnah offirst and second sheikh i.e sunat e sheikhein and hazrat usman accepted... read the reply to above mentioned fabricated hadees and try to be honest to analyze it..
bhaiyo jis ko jaisay pasand ho pardh lay.na ali k liyay na umer k liyay.bus allah k liyay.
Reference given by Abdullah from Quran do not tell if the hands should be wrapped or loose during the qiyammah in salat. He just derived this meaning from these two ayahs anyway he wanted. Which is a lie and a shame. I 100% agree with Shazan_King that when you say salat/namaz the way you like, wrapped or loose arms do not matter, but please do not twist the meanings of Qurani ayahs just to prove that you are correct even though they do not. May Allah help us understand better and enhance our imaan/belief in him. I loved the comments posted by someone with the anonymous id. Abdullah and his supporters must take the full meanings of when a person comes in the world as a baby along with this that baby is bare not wearing the clothes so they need to follow this too. For those who derive the meanings of loose arms from the mentioned ayah (which doesn't even present in the ayah) must think about the rest of the content also.
Kindly mujhay Nabi Pak S.A.W.
Kee namaaz parny Ka Tareeqa reference quote Karwa dain. Or Nabi Pak Kay kisi Ashab kee Namaaz Jo Hath khol Kar namaaz partay hon. Quote Karwa dain.
Follower720,
If u dont want to accept , dont accept...but u should know that there is controversy even among sunnis about where to put the folded hands in Salat.( chest, belly or below it ). Is it not surprising that the act which Prophet(SAWA) performed for 23 years five times a day is also not free from controversy among muslims.
Only Prophet(SAWA) and his true successors ( Ahle Bayt) can explain the true meaning of the aya of the Quran.
In fact many so called Islamic Ulema have twisted the meeting of the aya of Quran
DOSTO ASSALAM.U.ALEKUM sub say pehlay Sub Momin Dosto ko Tuhfa Ya Ali(a.s)..
Aur Dosto Dunia me sub say bra Aalam QURAAN hay aur ALLAH ny wazeh tor per har cheez thek tarha say QURAAN me bta di. AB JO KOI B QURAAN PER AMAL NAI KRTA WO JAHANUMI HAY AUR US PER SAKHAT AZAaB HOGA.. AUR QURAAN HAMKO FIKAR DETA HAY.
1.Fikar.e.Mazi
2.Fikar.e.Haal
3.Fikar.e.Mustaqbil
Bray Meharbani QURAAN PER GHOR KAREN. Itna read kren jis ko samjh saken. Shukiya MOLA ALI(A.S) WARIS.
Paida hony me aor mar kr jany me only one cheez mushtrk h
Wh h hathun ka khula rakhna...
Ab apki bat ka jwab..
Jab bacha paida hota h...wh roota hva ata h sota hva nh.......jab bnda mrrta h to us ka naik aamal kaaam aty...
Is hisab se to ruku me jaane pe bhi hathyar nhin sambhlega sajde me bhi khatra hai....ye kya logic hai...hathyar lene ka matlab hai hathyar sath me ho....baki Allah knows great.
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